Indian spearhead for comments

[silberschatzimsee]

Mayci asky how do you determine its a fake?

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by silberschatzimsee

Mayci asky how do you determine its a fake?

Hello,

I've said "when it was sold to you as antique it's a fake". Like said before, I know next to nothing about Indian weapons but I think that I can see what it's old/antique. The spear head in question look very recent to my eyes, no abrasion at the koftgari work, no abrasion at the blued parts and the edges look like sharpened yesterday. Think about, when it would be a 19th century piece, it would be more as 100 years old! And when it would be old like this it would show clearly wear since it wouldn't handled in all this years with gloves like you do it now. And also when it is a presentation piece (what would be likely) it will show wear after all this decades! It's for sure very good artwork, no question, but when sold to you as antique it's done to cheat you and in this case I would call it fake!
Please understand me correct, I don't want to attack you but I think it's better to speak clear words as to tell you that you have bought a great antique item, sorry!
I am sure that all members here have done mistakes by buying items, sometimes very expensive learning lessons and I hope that your lesson wasn't a very expensive one!

Best regards,
Detlef

[Davinder Toor]

Dear silberschatzimsee

Your spearhead was sold by Spink in the year 2000 and can be seen in their catalogue entitled Gopis, Goddesses and Demons.

I hope this is of some help to you.

Davinder

[A. G. Maisey]

Detlef, I agree with you that this spear head is in very fine condition, and it certainly does not show the signs of age or of wear that we are accustomed to seeing in older items.

However, I have handled 300 and 400 year old keris blades that look as though they came off the work-bench yesterday.I have handled fine English firearms from the 19th century, that were in absolutely pristine condition. It is very difficult to determine age of any artifact from a photo.

Perhaps you might care to qualify your opinion in respect of this spear head, just a little?

Personally, my own opinion would run something like this:-

"based upon what I believe I can see in the photos of this Indian spear head I am unable to form any firm opinion as to age"

[Sajen]

Hello Alan,

you may be correct, I've seen this as well but most of the time in museums or in high end collections. And like said already two times before, I know next to nothing about Indian weapons. And the last thing I intended to do was to offend Silberschatzimsee.

So it is maybe better to say: "What I can see by his pictures I tend to believe that we see here a rather recent item!" And let me add that I hope to be wrong.

Best regards,
Detlef