Tulwar cartouche

Pukka Bundook · 28th January 2011, 04:43 AM

Good evening esteemed company.

I have a tulwar with a cartouche on the blade.
My question is, does anyone reccognise it, or know where it comes from?

Having just recieved it, it is not cleaned at all yet.
Any help with this would be most appreciated!

Thank you for looking,
Richard.

Jens Nordlunde · 28th January 2011, 05:10 PM

Hello Richard,
Nice tulwar you got, but it will need some cleaning - yes I know that you know

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It is pure Bikaner from the 17th century. From the time when Anup Singh sacked Adoni and many other places.
Congratulations
Jens

Robert · 28th January 2011, 05:22 PM

Hello Richard, Very nice indeed. Could you possibly add a picture that shows the entire sword?

Robert

Pukka Bundook · 29th January 2011, 02:42 PM

Hello Jens,

Fancy meting you here

I was very pleased when you gave me the above information, and have been looking up Bikaner, and ran across Anup Singh,.... 1669-98.
It is very nice to find a tulwar with some definite background!!
It would be interesting if this same monogram appeared elsewhere.

Yes, needs a clean. I will dig out the acid and angle grinder.....

No, not really!!
Robert,

Here is a picture from the seller.
I will try and take a better one, and will attach in the near future.
I am pleased you like it.
This tulwar is very light, with a 'T' spine.
The weight is only .83 KG or about 1 lb 14 oz.

ward · 29th January 2011, 05:07 PM

I looked at it from literaly every angle, I think its just squiggles. have seen this a lot, just means the guy who did it wasnt literate in arabic letters.

ward

Pukka Bundook · 30th January 2011, 06:34 AM

Hello Ward,
Yes, I know it's not writing, but wondered if it was a sign of belonging or something,...........the same as a triangle stamp in the West could have a meaning....If you follow me!
...Or "Mousey" Thomson's furniture, with a mouse carved on every piece....

I do not know the questions to ask, and have no answers.

Richard.

28th January 2011, 04:43 AM	#1
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	Tulwar cartouche Good evening esteemed company. I have a tulwar with a cartouche on the blade. My question is, does anyone reccognise it, or know where it comes from? Having just recieved it, it is not cleaned at all yet. Any help with this would be most appreciated! Thank you for looking, Richard. Attached Images

28th January 2011, 05:10 PM	#2
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,713	Hello Richard, Nice tulwar you got, but it will need some cleaning - yes I know that you know. It is pure Bikaner from the 17th century. From the time when Anup Singh sacked Adoni and many other places. Congratulations Jens

29th January 2011, 02:42 PM	#4
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	Hello Jens, Fancy meting you here I was very pleased when you gave me the above information, and have been looking up Bikaner, and ran across Anup Singh,.... 1669-98. It is very nice to find a tulwar with some definite background!! It would be interesting if this same monogram appeared elsewhere. Yes, needs a clean. I will dig out the acid and angle grinder..... No, not really!! Robert, Here is a picture from the seller. I will try and take a better one, and will attach in the near future. I am pleased you like it. This tulwar is very light, with a 'T' spine. The weight is only .83 KG or about 1 lb 14 oz. Attached Images

28th January 2011, 05:22 PM	#3
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Hello Richard, Very nice indeed. Could you possibly add a picture that shows the entire sword? Robert

29th January 2011, 05:07 PM	#5
ward Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 637	I looked at it from literaly every angle, I think its just squiggles. have seen this a lot, just means the guy who did it wasnt literate in arabic letters. ward

30th January 2011, 06:34 AM	#6
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	Hello Ward, Yes, I know it's not writing, but wondered if it was a sign of belonging or something,...........the same as a triangle stamp in the West could have a meaning....If you follow me! ...Or "Mousey" Thomson's furniture, with a mouse carved on every piece.... I do not know the questions to ask, and have no answers. Richard.