Turkish kilij

Hara_morin · 2nd July 2010, 11:23 AM

Hello all! The inscription on the blade is unreadable in this condition?

Jens Nordlunde · 4th July 2010, 06:19 PM

I can’t offer much help, as I am collection Indian weapons myself, but when it comes to the blade types there is an article from 1972 in the yearbook of Danish Arms and Armour Society, the yearbook n XVIII.

Unfortunately it is in Danish but there are pictures as well. The article is written by H. Jacobsen and is called the Mogul-Kilidj’en.

I know it is not of much help, but I do hope it will bring you a bit further.

Brons Hansen another Danish collector/dealer also had a fantastic collection of Turkish weapons, and they also published a year boo of his collection but there was also many other weapons.

BTW lovely pictures you show

Jens

Hara_morin · 5th July 2010, 01:32 PM

Thank you, Jens! I also have nice indian tulwar and i don't understand is it inscription on the blade or decoration?

ward · 5th July 2010, 07:36 PM

It's really too worn to read. I think I can see 'ALI in there but not sure

Jens Nordlunde · 6th July 2010, 02:07 PM

Hi Hara,

It is hard to say if it is text or decoration, but my guess is hat it is decoration. Nice old sword, but please show the hand guard plate in detail. Is it showing two birds?

Indian Art in Marlborough House, which is a catalogue over gifts the Prince of Wales, was given on his visit to India in 1875-76.

In Case A no 1 is a tulwar with a hilt like the one you have. The one given to the Prince was studded with gems, and yours don’t seem to be – but the hilt form is the same. It was given by H.H. the Nizam.

Hara_morin · 6th July 2010, 02:56 PM

Yes, hand guard plate decorated with 2 birds peacock, scabbard is new made

Hara_morin · 10th July 2010, 02:31 PM

better pics

Hara_morin · 30th August 2010, 02:14 PM

I found good turkish terrible size kindlal. The decoration on the scabbard fittings looks like on kilij scabbard, in my oppinion. Mark on the blade- Muxammad?

Hara_morin · 7th September 2010, 01:14 PM

my translation is right?

2nd July 2010, 11:23 AM	#1
Hara_morin Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 53	Turkish kilij Hello all! The inscription on the blade is unreadable in this condition? Attached Images

5th July 2010, 01:32 PM	#3
Hara_morin Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 53	Thank you, Jens! I also have nice indian tulwar and i don't understand is it inscription on the blade or decoration? Attached Images

6th July 2010, 02:07 PM	#5
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,713	Hi Hara, It is hard to say if it is text or decoration, but my guess is hat it is decoration. Nice old sword, but please show the hand guard plate in detail. Is it showing two birds? Indian Art in Marlborough House, which is a catalogue over gifts the Prince of Wales, was given on his visit to India in 1875-76. In Case A no 1 is a tulwar with a hilt like the one you have. The one given to the Prince was studded with gems, and yours don’t seem to be – but the hilt form is the same. It was given by H.H. the Nizam. Attached Images Last edited by Jens Nordlunde; 6th July 2010 at 02:33 PM.

6th July 2010, 02:56 PM	#6
Hara_morin Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 53	Yes, hand guard plate decorated with 2 birds peacock, scabbard is new made Attached Images

10th July 2010, 02:31 PM	#7
Hara_morin Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 53	better pics Attached Images

4th July 2010, 06:19 PM	#2
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,713	I can’t offer much help, as I am collection Indian weapons myself, but when it comes to the blade types there is an article from 1972 in the yearbook of Danish Arms and Armour Society, the yearbook n XVIII. Unfortunately it is in Danish but there are pictures as well. The article is written by H. Jacobsen and is called the Mogul-Kilidj’en. I know it is not of much help, but I do hope it will bring you a bit further. Brons Hansen another Danish collector/dealer also had a fantastic collection of Turkish weapons, and they also published a year boo of his collection but there was also many other weapons. BTW lovely pictures you show Jens

5th July 2010, 07:36 PM	#4
ward Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 637	It's really too worn to read. I think I can see 'ALI in there but not sure

30th August 2010, 02:14 PM	#8
Hara_morin Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 53	I found good turkish terrible size kindlal. The decoration on the scabbard fittings looks like on kilij scabbard, in my oppinion. Mark on the blade- Muxammad? Attached Images

7th September 2010, 01:14 PM	#9
Hara_morin Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 53	my translation is right?