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Old 7th November 2017, 05:55 PM   #1
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Default A VERY DECORATED FLINTLOCK PISTOL FOR ID

A VERY DECORATED FLINTLOCK PISTOL FOR ID
This pistol seems made for the export market ,I never saw before something similar with all these decorations : grotesque mask ,lion head , etc..
Any information about his origin or maker would be highly appreciated

This pistol seems made for the export market ,I never saw before something similar with all these decorations : grotesque mask ,lion head , etc..
Any information about his origin or maker would be highly appreciated
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Old 7th November 2017, 06:12 PM   #2
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A gunmaker TWIGTON in LONDON is unknown to me and not mentioned in the NEUE STÖCKEL too. So the origin of this pistol is somewhat mysterious the less so since there are no British proof- and viewmarks on the barrel. Although the front end of the triggerguard looks very English I think that this pistol has probably been made by a Liège gunmaker for the Osmanic Empire. Using names of English gunmakers was an old practise of the Liège gunmakers in order to simulate good English quality.
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Old 7th November 2017, 06:43 PM   #3
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I dare say that there will hardly be a description of this pistol origin more accurate than the one presented by corrado26.
In any case, a very, very nice pistol, Jean-Luc .
Say, are those some letters on the tang ?

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Old 7th November 2017, 06:54 PM   #4
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Yes Corrado like you my guess is a pistol for export market , Fernando may be a date ? Please see this new pics
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Old 7th November 2017, 09:54 PM   #5
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Hello

Generally the Belgian arms for export have the punch of the Bank of Liège, but to hide the origin they are in the lower part of the cannon. You would have to dismantle it and see what it is.

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Old 8th November 2017, 11:25 AM   #6
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... Fernando may be a date ? Please see this new pics
Yes, more like a number than a decoration floral. But then, even if it is a number or a date, could also be illusory .
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Old 8th November 2017, 06:51 PM   #7
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It Is a very nice and very different pistol Cerjak.
Very nice silver work and such.

Dating is rather difficult, as it ha selements popular from differing ages, like the heavy moulding around the trigger-guard, (earlier 18th C mostly, ) and the pineapple which is later, 1780's and on.
Then the style of the grip is more early 18th C but the sideplates for the sidenails say early 19th C.
I wonder, with the very nice decoration, Is there a chance it was made in India??
I ask as Tippu Sultan had very nice arms made for himself, so Indian craftsmen could certainly be up to the job.
It sounds like the maker had heard of Twigg, at any rate!

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