Malay Keris For Comment.

mykeris · 25th September 2009, 09:42 PM

Just to check with you guys if you have come across with this unusual keris hilt. found in Patani, TQ in advance. Mykeris.

Alam Shah · 26th September 2009, 01:19 AM

Hi mykeris,

The handle, looks like a makara styled hilt, normally reserved for parangs and badeks. It's in another form.. a mixture of known animals including having claws, a crocodile's body, the trunk of an elephant, scales and a large jaw (often potrayed devouring the naga).

attached: an example on the entrance balustrades lining the entrance on the steps to a temple building..

drdavid · 26th September 2009, 03:02 AM

I'm with Alam Shah on this one, makara style. More commonly seen on other weapons in my limited experience .
drd

mykeris · 26th September 2009, 03:30 AM

Thanks Alam, DrDavid. In this case, could it have some links to the Langkasuka hilt form?

Perhaps others may have some comments. Whats your opinion bluerf?

BluErf · 26th September 2009, 03:08 PM

It looks like a bird to me, with a crest.

But seriously, I have never seen anything likt it before.

BluErf · 26th September 2009, 03:09 PM

How about this?

http://books.google.com.sg/books?id=...age&q=&f=false

Alam Shah · 27th September 2009, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BluErf

It looks like a bird to me, with a crest.

But seriously, I have never seen anything likt it before.

Hi BluErf, looking at the newer clearer pictures, it doesn't look like a bird to me.. the beak is not obvious, and the presence of fangs, might indicate otherwise. Some parts seems like have been gnawed at..

Alam Shah · 26th September 2009, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mykeris

.. In this case, could it have some links to the Langkasuka hilt form?

There's always a possibility.. but then again, what is a Langkasuka hilt form? Mykeris, can we get a closer, sharper image of the mouth area of the hilt?

mykeris · 27th September 2009, 10:19 AM

Perhaps, these would help.

Bill M · 24th January 2010, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alam Shah

Hi mykeris,

The handle, looks like a makara styled hilt, normally reserved for parangs and badeks. It's in another form.. a mixture of known animals including having claws, a crocodile's body, the trunk of an elephant, scales and a large jaw (often potrayed devouring the naga).

Possibly not devouring the Naga, but giving birth.

Alam Shah · 24th January 2010, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Marsh

Possibly not devouring the Naga, but giving birth.

Good point Bill.. didn't thought of that..

25th September 2009, 09:42 PM	#1
mykeris Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 278	Malay Keris For Comment. Just to check with you guys if you have come across with this unusual keris hilt. found in Patani, TQ in advance. Mykeris. Attached Images

26th September 2009, 01:19 AM	#2
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Hi mykeris, The handle, looks like a makara styled hilt, normally reserved for parangs and badeks. It's in another form.. a mixture of known animals including having claws, a crocodile's body, the trunk of an elephant, scales and a large jaw (often potrayed devouring the naga). attached: an example on the entrance balustrades lining the entrance on the steps to a temple building.. Attached Images

27th September 2009, 10:19 AM	#9
mykeris Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 278	Additional pics. Perhaps, these would help. Attached Images

26th September 2009, 03:02 AM	#3
drdavid Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 369	I'm with Alam Shah on this one, makara style. More commonly seen on other weapons in my limited experience . drd

26th September 2009, 03:30 AM	#4
mykeris Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 278	Thanks Alam, DrDavid. In this case, could it have some links to the Langkasuka hilt form? Perhaps others may have some comments. Whats your opinion bluerf?

26th September 2009, 03:08 PM	#5
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	It looks like a bird to me, with a crest. But seriously, I have never seen anything likt it before.

26th September 2009, 03:09 PM	#6
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	How about this? http://books.google.com.sg/books?id=...age&q=&f=false