Keris and Rembrandt

Dmitry · 14th April 2010, 11:17 PM

Look at the blade in Samson's eye.
I find this reference to a keris fascinating. It's probably the earliest depiction of this weapon, but I could be wrong, of course.
No doubt it was brought to Holland by a Dutch East India Company employee from Java, or some such place. Artists always have all kinds of stuff laying around for props...

asomotif · 14th April 2010, 11:54 PM

Hello Dmitry,

Check out this thread :http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ight=rembrandt

Best regards,
Willem

Dmitry · 15th April 2010, 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asomotif

Hello Dmitry,

Check out this thread :http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ight=rembrandt

Best regards,
Willem

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Still, fascinating stuff.

asomotif · 15th April 2010, 11:23 AM

Yes, very interesting that he used all kinds of exotic weapons in his paintings.

Maybe somebody still has to add something ?
Or maybe someone knows other painters that depicted exotics arms and armour. (Rubens ? )

ganjawulung · 15th April 2010, 11:42 AM

It seems a nine (9) luks keris. Kidang Soka? Sempana? Or seven (7) luks keris. Carubuk? One luk had already inside Samsom's eye... But it seems quite clear that the hilt used was Cirebonese "buta hilt". Look at the hand position of the buta... (pls zoom in)

GANJAWULUNG

A. G. Maisey · 15th April 2010, 01:54 PM

I have not seen the original of this painting, in fact, I have not even seen a good quality print of it.

All I have seen is the image in front of me on my computer screen.

I've Photoshopped that image through several magnifications and all I can see is a nondescript lump protruding from the mailed hand, and a very small section of flamboyant blade.

Based upon what I can see I would describe this dagger as simply one with a flamboyant blade.

I cannot see a keris anywhere.

14th April 2010, 11:17 PM	#1
Dmitry Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 607	Keris and Rembrandt Look at the blade in Samson's eye. I find this reference to a keris fascinating. It's probably the earliest depiction of this weapon, but I could be wrong, of course. No doubt it was brought to Holland by a Dutch East India Company employee from Java, or some such place. Artists always have all kinds of stuff laying around for props... Attached Images

15th April 2010, 11:42 AM	#5
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	Buta Hilt Keris It seems a nine (9) luks keris. Kidang Soka? Sempana? Or seven (7) luks keris. Carubuk? One luk had already inside Samsom's eye... But it seems quite clear that the hilt used was Cirebonese "buta hilt". Look at the hand position of the buta... (pls zoom in) GANJAWULUNG

14th April 2010, 11:54 PM	#2
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,221	Hello Dmitry, Check out this thread :http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ight=rembrandt Best regards, Willem

15th April 2010, 11:23 AM	#4
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,221	Yes, very interesting that he used all kinds of exotic weapons in his paintings. Maybe somebody still has to add something ? Or maybe someone knows other painters that depicted exotics arms and armour. (Rubens ? )

15th April 2010, 01:54 PM	#6
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,708	I have not seen the original of this painting, in fact, I have not even seen a good quality print of it. All I have seen is the image in front of me on my computer screen. I've Photoshopped that image through several magnifications and all I can see is a nondescript lump protruding from the mailed hand, and a very small section of flamboyant blade. Based upon what I can see I would describe this dagger as simply one with a flamboyant blade. I cannot see a keris anywhere.