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Old 14th October 2008, 04:25 PM   #1
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Here is a nice example of a dress knife form Sumbawa. A similar example can be seen in Zonneveld's Traditional Weapons of the Indonesian Archipelago on page 74, plate 283.

The silver scabbard on this one is much akin to Sumbawa scabbards seen on dressier swords.
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Old 14th October 2008, 08:51 PM   #2
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That is a most unusual hilt. I haven't seen anything similar before. Could it be phallic or abstract?
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Old 15th October 2008, 05:34 AM   #3
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It looks like the silver may have been done on either southern Sulawesi or maybe by some local Bugis on this, otherwise Sumbawa, knife?
I have heard that those knives are harvesting knives. Maybe ceremonial like when communicating with the semangat (life-essence, collective soul, local guardian spirit) of the local rice field before harvesting.

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PS The ivory is usually marine/whale on these Sumbawa knives.
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Old 17th October 2008, 11:34 PM   #4
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Phallic ? / maybe sperm whale

But seriously, a very nice knife but the hilt seems indeed pretty phallic for an indonesian weapon. could that be hindu influence ?
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Old 18th October 2008, 01:25 AM   #5
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Apparently they are not unknown in the area .
http://www.geocities.com/keris4u/ha...ngam_tandok.htm
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Apparently they are not unknown in the area .
http://www.geocities.com/keris4u/ha...ngam_tandok.htm
I had some nice comments on this one, but I think it is better to keep the comments for myself and not write it down in our forum.

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Old 18th October 2008, 02:48 PM   #7
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Agreed ..........
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I take advantage of this subject to show you my recently arrived Sumbawa rice knife. The work of the reppoussé is certainly much rougher, but I'm happy because I did not think to succeed to acquire this type knife (in my budget) before several years.
I think ivory is hippopotamus.
Total length 27cm
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I take advantage of this subject to show you my recently arrived Sumbawa rice knife. The work of the reppoussé is certainly much rougher, but I'm happy because I did not think to succeed to acquire this type knife (in my budget) before several years.
I think ivory is hippopotamus.
Total length 27cm


Very nice, I am green with envy! I don't think that this are rice knives and when only ceremonial. Handle material look like elephant ivory, can you show close-ups? But you are correct, most of the times are the handle material is hippo ivory by this sort of knives. Great catch!

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Very nice, I am green with envy! Handle material look like elephant ivory, can you show close-ups? But you are correct, most of the times are the handle material is hippo ivory by this sort of knives. Great catch!

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Could be spermwhale tooth ?

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Could be spermwhale tooth ?


Hello Willem,

could be but we need close-ups IMVHO.

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It's time to add mine which I bought in 2016.
Material handle: Dugong. It looks more like the last shown example.
Circumcision tool as I have been told.....
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I try to make close-ups, but the result is ugly.
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