handgonne (handbüchse) from Sammlung Baumann aus Rothenburg ob der Tauber

Spiridonov · 30th December 2017, 11:37 PM

Total length is 100,5 cm, Barrel length is 21 cm, caliber is 34 mm
Sammlung Baumann aus Rothenburg ob der Tauber
(photo made by Borys Urbanski)
http://www.reichsstadtmuseum.rothenb...ndex.php?id=51

Marcus den toom · 31st December 2017, 07:18 AM

Great pictures by your friend, Alexander. The haquebut seems untouched overall.
The museum did date the piece a bit to early as the pronounced muzzle section would make this piece date around the 1460/70s.

The bore diameter seems to be original too, don't you think?

Andi · 31st December 2017, 01:37 PM

Some years ago I contacted the museum regarding information about the provenance of this piece. But there are no information available when or from where Baumann has got it.

fernando · 31st December 2017, 06:40 PM

Should i discrepancy in the museum description ?
If it has a recoil hook is a wall haquebut and not a horseman handbüchse ... right ?

corrado26 · 1st January 2018, 02:46 PM

As far as I am informed many of the object on display in this museum came from a very well known dealer in southern Germany. So maybe that this gun is from the same origin.
corrado26

Pukka Bundook · 1st January 2018, 03:54 PM

Fernando,

Happy New Year!

I wonder about the hook. Should it not be integral with the barrel ?
This hook appears attached to the stock and not part of the barrel. Can this be correct? I though our dear Matchlock taught us otherwise.

Best wishes,
R.

Marcus den toom · 1st January 2018, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fernando

Should i discrepancy in the museum description ?
If it has a recoil hook is a wall haquebut and not a horseman handbüchse ... right ?

Hi Nando,
It could be both true, as this illustration depicts. A Similar weird hook can be found with this gun
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...=Steinb%FCchse

30th December 2017, 11:37 PM	#1
Spiridonov Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Russia, Leningrad Posts: 355	handgonne (handbüchse) from Sammlung Baumann aus Rothenburg ob der Tauber Total length is 100,5 cm, Barrel length is 21 cm, caliber is 34 mm Sammlung Baumann aus Rothenburg ob der Tauber (photo made by Borys Urbanski) http://www.reichsstadtmuseum.rothenb...ndex.php?id=51 Attached Images Last edited by Spiridonov; 30th December 2017 at 11:56 PM.

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31st December 2017, 07:18 AM	#2
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 493	Great pictures by your friend, Alexander. The haquebut seems untouched overall. The museum did date the piece a bit to early as the pronounced muzzle section would make this piece date around the 1460/70s. The bore diameter seems to be original too, don't you think?

31st December 2017, 01:37 PM	#3
Andi Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Halstenbek, Germany Posts: 202	Some years ago I contacted the museum regarding information about the provenance of this piece. But there are no information available when or from where Baumann has got it.

31st December 2017, 06:40 PM	#4
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,637	Should i discrepancy in the museum description ? If it has a recoil hook is a wall haquebut and not a horseman handbüchse ... right ?

1st January 2018, 02:46 PM	#5
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,166	As far as I am informed many of the object on display in this museum came from a very well known dealer in southern Germany. So maybe that this gun is from the same origin. corrado26

1st January 2018, 03:54 PM	#6
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	Fernando, Happy New Year! I wonder about the hook. Should it not be integral with the barrel ? This hook appears attached to the stock and not part of the barrel. Can this be correct? I though our dear Matchlock taught us otherwise. Best wishes, R.