Panjang for discussion

rahman · 21st August 2006, 03:19 PM

The shape of the sampir somehow tells me it is Minangkabau, as do the carved and tall Jawa Demam hilt. The pucuk rebong motif on the silverworks is quite distinctively Malay. But Malay pieces usually have tapak kuda, and especially with the tampuk manggis design.

The blade itself has a pinggang (waist), an almost imperceptible tapering just above the sor-soran. And most panjangs don't have any pamor.

Interesting fusion in all. I'd go for Negri Sembilan which has strong Minang influence.

VVV · 21st August 2006, 05:23 PM

Thanks Rahman,

That's an interesting conclusion.
Does anyone have a link to Keris from Negri Sembilan?
Do they usually resemble Minangkabau Keris?

Michael

BluErf · 22nd August 2006, 03:29 PM

Negri Sembilan is part of Malaysia, but it is distinctively populated by Minang Kabau people. They migrated across the Melaka straits, from Sumatra to Malaysia.

VVV · 22nd August 2006, 03:34 PM

Thanks BluErf,

But have they developed new kind of Keris after the migration or have they kept the "Minangkabau look" to their Keris?

Michael

BluErf · 23rd August 2006, 03:02 PM

That's a good question. I've not been to Negri Sembilan myself, so I am not sure if they have retained their Minang keris forms.

But an interesting point to note is that Minang kerises are so varied that it is hard to point to an 'archetype'. Every Minang village has their own slightly different dress and hilt. This applies to the people's headdress and dressing as well. It's a kind of unique communal identity. So I would not be surprised if the Negri Sembilan Minang people have their own special form of keris dress.

21st August 2006, 03:19 PM	#1
rahman Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 84	It smells Minang - or Negri Semibilan The shape of the sampir somehow tells me it is Minangkabau, as do the carved and tall Jawa Demam hilt. The pucuk rebong motif on the silverworks is quite distinctively Malay. But Malay pieces usually have tapak kuda, and especially with the tampuk manggis design. The blade itself has a pinggang (waist), an almost imperceptible tapering just above the sor-soran. And most panjangs don't have any pamor. Interesting fusion in all. I'd go for Negri Sembilan which has strong Minang influence.

21st August 2006, 05:23 PM	#2
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Thanks Rahman, That's an interesting conclusion. Does anyone have a link to Keris from Negri Sembilan? Do they usually resemble Minangkabau Keris? Michael

22nd August 2006, 03:29 PM	#3
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Negri Sembilan is part of Malaysia, but it is distinctively populated by Minang Kabau people. They migrated across the Melaka straits, from Sumatra to Malaysia.

22nd August 2006, 03:34 PM	#4
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Thanks BluErf, But have they developed new kind of Keris after the migration or have they kept the "Minangkabau look" to their Keris? Michael

23rd August 2006, 03:02 PM	#5
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	That's a good question. I've not been to Negri Sembilan myself, so I am not sure if they have retained their Minang keris forms. But an interesting point to note is that Minang kerises are so varied that it is hard to point to an 'archetype'. Every Minang village has their own slightly different dress and hilt. This applies to the people's headdress and dressing as well. It's a kind of unique communal identity. So I would not be surprised if the Negri Sembilan Minang people have their own special form of keris dress.