Ri Wader

Marcokeris · 13th April 2009, 09:40 PM

During my last trip in Jawa i found this dapur. Someone may teach how is the way to make this keris ?

Marcokeris · 13th April 2009, 09:44 PM

some other pics (mendak is not Solo but.. i like it

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Rick · 14th April 2009, 02:50 AM

This seems to be a solid pamor version of the motif pictured below .
The pamor on this keris has been applied over a core and has not been heavily etched .

David · 14th April 2009, 02:52 AM

Marco, is your question about the dhapur or the pamor. The pamor looks like Blarak Ngirid without a core. I think the lack of a core is what is giving it the unusual appearance you are wondering about. Looks like a contemporary piece to me.

David · 14th April 2009, 02:54 AM

Oh hi Rick, looks like we were posting at the same time.

Rick · 14th April 2009, 02:57 AM

Hi David !!

Very nice dress for this dramatic blade Marco !

Alam Shah · 14th April 2009, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

Marco, is your question about the dhapur or the pamor. The pamor looks like Blarak Ngirid without a core. I think the lack of a core is what is giving it the unusual appearance you are wondering about. Looks like a contemporary piece to me.

That's pamor Ri Wader alright, it's the vertical type of pamor (pamor miring).. I like the structure, although it has no core.. imho, battle worthiness is questionable, but aesthetically pleasing.. I've had the opportunity to closely look at a few of these before, nice find..

Marcokeris · 14th April 2009, 11:27 AM

I would like to know, about this dapur, if the maker uses acid to have the ragged edges or if he uses some tools or if the edges comes .

Marcokeris · 14th April 2009, 11:28 AM

I would like to know, about this dapur, if the maker uses acid to have the ragged edges or if he uses some tools or if the edges borns in this way during the hot work. (I suppose strong acid )

David · 14th April 2009, 02:16 PM

Marco, obviously the blade has been etched, but i think the raggedy edges is, as i mentioned before, due to the lack of a core to the blade more than anything else.

Jussi M. · 14th April 2009, 09:17 PM

That blade looks like a medieval torturing device

Sajen · 16th April 2009, 10:38 PM

Hi Marco,

nice and interesting recent keris. about your question I think that David give the answer.

sajen

asian-keris · 18th April 2009, 04:57 PM

Hi Marco,

Deformed blade due to mutch etching. i think
One recent keris.

regards,
AK

David · 18th April 2009, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asian-keris

Hi Marco,

Deformed blade due to mutch etching. i think
One recent keris.

regards,
AK

I agree that this is a recent keris, but i believe that the look is intentional so one can't really call it deformed. Again, it is the lack of a core that gives it this look.

Sajen · 18th April 2009, 11:43 PM

Not deformed, typical body structure from Ri Wader.

sajen

Marcokeris · 21st April 2009, 10:09 PM

thanks all for comments

13th April 2009, 09:40 PM	#1
Marcokeris Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 928	Ri Wader During my last trip in Jawa i found this dapur. Someone may teach how is the way to make this keris ? Attached Images

13th April 2009, 09:44 PM	#2
Marcokeris Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 928	some other pics (mendak is not Solo but.. i like it ) Attached Images

14th April 2009, 02:50 AM	#3
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,262	Seems Like This seems to be a solid pamor version of the motif pictured below . The pamor on this keris has been applied over a core and has not been heavily etched . Attached Images

14th April 2009, 02:52 AM	#4
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,024	Marco, is your question about the dhapur or the pamor. The pamor looks like Blarak Ngirid without a core. I think the lack of a core is what is giving it the unusual appearance you are wondering about. Looks like a contemporary piece to me.

14th April 2009, 02:54 AM	#5
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,024	Oh hi Rick, looks like we were posting at the same time.

14th April 2009, 02:57 AM	#6
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,262	Hi David !! Very nice dress for this dramatic blade Marco !

14th April 2009, 11:27 AM	#8
Marcokeris Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 928	I would like to know, about this dapur, if the maker uses acid to have the ragged edges or if he uses some tools or if the edges comes .

14th April 2009, 11:28 AM	#9
Marcokeris Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 928	I would like to know, about this dapur, if the maker uses acid to have the ragged edges or if he uses some tools or if the edges borns in this way during the hot work. (I suppose strong acid )

14th April 2009, 02:16 PM	#10
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,024	Marco, obviously the blade has been etched, but i think the raggedy edges is, as i mentioned before, due to the lack of a core to the blade more than anything else.

14th April 2009, 09:17 PM	#11
Jussi M. Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 235	That blade looks like a medieval torturing device

16th April 2009, 10:38 PM	#12
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,483	Hi Marco, nice and interesting recent keris. about your question I think that David give the answer. sajen

18th April 2009, 04:57 PM	#13
asian-keris Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 32	Hi Marco, Deformed blade due to mutch etching. i think One recent keris. regards, AK

18th April 2009, 11:43 PM	#15
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,483	Not deformed, typical body structure from Ri Wader. sajen

21st April 2009, 10:09 PM	#16
Marcokeris Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 928	thanks all for comments