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4th February 2021, 12:23 PM | #1 |
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A few more knives from Central Asia in a similar scabard^
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4th February 2021, 12:46 PM | #2 |
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Plus the iron mountings with gold Koftgari, Central Asian and /or Persian?
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Anyhow, this is a true "chimera" to me. The scabbard looks Caucasian... I guess... the blade looks European... I guess again... and the hilt looks... I am out of guesses... |
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5th February 2021, 12:31 AM | #5 | |
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I would love to know this piece's story. A chimera. Gonzoalder you always find interesting pieces. Last edited by Interested Party; 5th February 2021 at 12:45 AM. |
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5th February 2021, 05:42 AM | #6 | |
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But, in Caucasus, I cannot remember knives of such a shape that would fit this scabbard ... But in Central Asia there are such knives By the way, I think from the knives that I showed in the photo against the background of the carpet, there is no question that their scabbard is from Central Asia? |
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There were famous Bakhmud and Abdalla Tubchiev brothers who went to Central Asian khanates ( Bukhara, I vaguely remember) at the end of 19 century. They worked there as jewelers. In Central Asia they learned enameling techniques and brought it back to the Caucasus. In exchange they taught the locals Caucasian silverwork and niello.
They also worked for several years in Istanbul. Both died when the Caucasus became “ Soviet” and all those years they made enameled scabbards and handles for the local and “ Moscow” bonzas. Thus, this kindjal is very, very highly likely can be dated to the beginning of the 20th century or even later. It is almost always the itinerant masters who introduce new techniques, decoration motives, materials etc. Just like Persian bladesmiths at the Moghul court who taught their Indian colleagues how to forge fancy wootz patterns instead of the customary “salt and pepper” one. |
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I have a strange feeling about it.
The face is peculiar, Central Asia was and still is Islamic. Even drawings of human faces are frown upon, but this is a 3-dimensional sculpture. Usually ( Hungarian, Philippine, Mughal etc) face is turned toward the edge. Here it faces the spine. There is a rivet through golden koft decorations. And why on Earth would anybody put a fragment of European regulation blade into a Caucasian / Turkish kard scabbard? I usually try to find positive things to say. Here I find one strange feature after another. Could it be a composition of unrelated parts? |
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