Keris Hilts made of Ceramic, Stone and other odd materials

COYOTE · 5th January 2016, 05:32 AM

I am rather new in collecting keris hilts, 2 years only...but I saw for sale some pieces made of ceramic, and other made of stone. Are these antique, vintage, old or artefacts newly made for tourists ?
Thanks in advance for the opinion of our experts in this field.

A. G. Maisey · 9th January 2016, 06:15 AM

I would need to see photos to give a balanced opinion, but generally speaking ceramic and glass and stone hilts that have any age are so rare as to be almost non-existent.

I have a collection of around 500 keris hilts. That is not counting the other few hundred that are on keris. I've got 3 or 4 glass hilts, all of which have been made in the last 20 years. I have no stone hilts that are old. I have no ceramic hilts at all, and have never seen an old ceramic hilt, although I have seen several ceramic hilts that had been processed to appear old.

I'd leave the "tourist" idea out of it. This idea that tourists provide a viable market for such things is ridiculous. Mostly these odd variations are offered on the local market in Indonesia, in places that tourists never penetrate.

COYOTE · 11th January 2016, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

I would need to see photos to give a balanced opinion, but generally speaking ceramic and glass and stone hilts that have any age are so rare as to be almost non-existent.

I have a collection of around 500 keris hilts. That is not counting the other few hundred that are on keris. I've got 3 or 4 glass hilts, all of which have been made in the last 20 years. I have no stone hilts that are old. I have no ceramic hilts at all, and have never seen an old ceramic hilt, although I have seen several ceramic hilts that had been processed to appear old.

I'd leave the "tourist" idea out of it. This idea that tourists provide a viable market for such things is ridiculous. Mostly these odd variations are offered on the local market in Indonesia, in places that tourists never penetrate.

Thank you very much for your expertise on this question. I would have thought that ceramic or stone hilts, being made with different materials from the usual and already well known ones, could be attractive for tourists...
It is very interesting to get some knowledge about your experience of these materials when used for keris hilts.

apolaki · 14th January 2016, 05:21 AM

Greetings,

Is this a Keris hilt? Which ethnic group of Indonesia can this be attributed to, and what is the cultural significance?

Gustav · 14th January 2016, 11:43 AM

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...highlight=dewi

Tatyana Dianova · 18th January 2016, 08:11 PM

Old handle made of lead (VERY heavy!)

5th January 2016, 05:32 AM	#1
COYOTE Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Rio de Janeiro - Brazil Posts: 27	Keris Hilts made of Ceramic, Stone and other odd materials I am rather new in collecting keris hilts, 2 years only...but I saw for sale some pieces made of ceramic, and other made of stone. Are these antique, vintage, old or artefacts newly made for tourists ? Thanks in advance for the opinion of our experts in this field.

14th January 2016, 05:21 AM	#4
apolaki Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 160	Greetings, Is this a Keris hilt? Which ethnic group of Indonesia can this be attributed to, and what is the cultural significance? Attached Images

18th January 2016, 08:11 PM	#6
Tatyana Dianova Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 678	Old handle made of lead (VERY heavy!) Attached Images

9th January 2016, 06:15 AM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,700	I would need to see photos to give a balanced opinion, but generally speaking ceramic and glass and stone hilts that have any age are so rare as to be almost non-existent. I have a collection of around 500 keris hilts. That is not counting the other few hundred that are on keris. I've got 3 or 4 glass hilts, all of which have been made in the last 20 years. I have no stone hilts that are old. I have no ceramic hilts at all, and have never seen an old ceramic hilt, although I have seen several ceramic hilts that had been processed to appear old. I'd leave the "tourist" idea out of it. This idea that tourists provide a viable market for such things is ridiculous. Mostly these odd variations are offered on the local market in Indonesia, in places that tourists never penetrate.

14th January 2016, 11:43 AM	#5
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,196	http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...highlight=dewi