African fighting stick

Luc LEFEBVRE · 7th June 2011, 09:40 PM

Ngandu / Saka
Congo
85 cm
wood
1920

Dom · 7th June 2011, 11:03 PM

Bonsoir Luc

fighting stick, was lethal weapons or just for fight simulation ? religious purpose ?

in case of violent engagements, these wooden weapons were breaking quickly, right ?

I'm curious to know the real destination of these weapons, ceremonial or war ?

thanks per anticipation to teach an uneducated

à +

Dom

Montino Bourbon · 8th June 2011, 11:23 PM

Miyamoto Musashi, one of the most famous swordsmen in Japan, liked to use the bo-ken, the wooden sword, and used it successfully in one of his most famous duels.

In the Rwanda genocide, the predominant weapon was a wooden club.

In Elizabethan England, one of the most violent times and places in the world, more people were killed with a cudgel, a plain old piece of wood, than with any other weapon.

The Maoris of New Zealand used a wooden weapon called the taiaha, and successfully defeated British troops using rifle and bayonet in hand-to-hand combat.

God forbid I should have to go into combat against a swordsman, (or against anybody, for that matter) but I'll take a 6 foot hardwood staff over the sword any day.

Luc LEFEBVRE · 9th June 2011, 09:02 PM

These stick are described as " non-lethal " weapons.
But I don't want to try...

Tim Simmons · 9th June 2011, 09:23 PM

Looks really nice. Any chance of another, view edge on. What wieght is it. It looks a hard wood. Much wood work from the Congo, on swords and knives seems to me to be often rather soft woods. A really good whack across the temple/eye socket would mean the next hit would be lethal.

7th June 2011, 09:40 PM	#1
Luc LEFEBVRE Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: France Posts: 472	African fighting stick Ngandu / Saka Congo 85 cm wood 1920 Attached Images

8th June 2011, 11:23 PM	#3
Montino Bourbon Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Santa Barbara, California Posts: 295	wooden weapons are deadly Miyamoto Musashi, one of the most famous swordsmen in Japan, liked to use the bo-ken, the wooden sword, and used it successfully in one of his most famous duels. In the Rwanda genocide, the predominant weapon was a wooden club. In Elizabethan England, one of the most violent times and places in the world, more people were killed with a cudgel, a plain old piece of wood, than with any other weapon. The Maoris of New Zealand used a wooden weapon called the taiaha, and successfully defeated British troops using rifle and bayonet in hand-to-hand combat. God forbid I should have to go into combat against a swordsman, (or against anybody, for that matter) but I'll take a 6 foot hardwood staff over the sword any day.

7th June 2011, 11:03 PM	#2
Dom Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Paris (FR*) Cairo (EG) Posts: 1,142	Bonsoir Luc fighting stick, was lethal weapons or just for fight simulation ? religious purpose ? in case of violent engagements, these wooden weapons were breaking quickly, right ? I'm curious to know the real destination of these weapons, ceremonial or war ? thanks per anticipation to teach an uneducated à + Dom

9th June 2011, 09:02 PM	#4
Luc LEFEBVRE Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: France Posts: 472	These stick are described as " non-lethal " weapons. But I don't want to try...

9th June 2011, 09:23 PM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,739	Looks really nice. Any chance of another, view edge on. What wieght is it. It looks a hard wood. Much wood work from the Congo, on swords and knives seems to me to be often rather soft woods. A really good whack across the temple/eye socket would mean the next hit would be lethal.