german dagger lutwaffe

BerberDagger · 24th January 2007, 06:01 PM

This is a German Lutwaffe dagger of 1939-40 I think...for you it is original????? it in perfect condition!!!

Mark · 24th January 2007, 07:37 PM

It is difficult to tell anything from the photos, since they are so blurry. Do you have clearer ones?

BerberDagger · 24th January 2007, 07:48 PM

hello,thanks for reply....

photo are make with phone , and I have web can broke....

yes , is very difficult but it is very very good....if it is a reproduction it can only be a spanish reproduction of 1950-60...but I think it is original....

but what is caracteristic of original lutwaffe dagger vs fake?

Rick · 24th January 2007, 07:49 PM

This item does not really fall within the scope of this forum.
Please see :

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=3942

BerberDagger · 24th January 2007, 07:51 PM

I have olso this SS dagger .... for me it is original....and for you??
it is in very very good condition...

Emanuel · 24th January 2007, 10:11 PM

Hi BerberDagger,
In a book I have, the examples of Shutzstaffel daggers don't have the stamped floral motifs on the scabbard tip and the guard, they are plain. I also don't see the circular stamp that is visible on yours...and I understand that WWII/Nazi militaria is notoriously prone to faking...maybe someone else can say if it's real.
Emanuel

David · 25th January 2007, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

This item does not really fall within the scope of this forum.
Please see :

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=3942

Maybe this will help for those unable to click on the above link

:
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mross · 25th January 2007, 09:01 PM

I would take them over to here;

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/fo...play.php?f=691

Bernard can tell you if they are real or fake.

Mark · 25th January 2007, 09:08 PM

Understand, we're not chasing you away, BerberDagger.

Its just that we don't have much expertise on this forum for these kinds of weapons. They just don't fit

, so you are better off asking about these particular ones on one of the forums more oriented toward Western military arms.

The definition of an "ethnographic weapon" found in the posting guidelines is really for the purpose of informing people of the kind of interest and expertise they are likely to find here.

Henk · 25th January 2007, 09:29 PM

Berberdagger,

I completely agree with Mark. But I can tel you that the ss-dagger is a new made replica. I recognize this thing, because I see those daggers often here in Holland. About the other dagger, the pictures are not good enough but I'm afraid it is a replica too. A real german WWII dagger is extremely expensive and you need a very good and reliable dealer for this stuff. And even then, when they handle a well made replica, they sometimes are mistaken.

24th January 2007, 06:01 PM	#1
BerberDagger Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 247	german dagger lutwaffe This is a German Lutwaffe dagger of 1939-40 I think...for you it is original????? it in perfect condition!!! Attached Images

24th January 2007, 07:51 PM	#5
BerberDagger Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 247	ss dagger I have olso this SS dagger .... for me it is original....and for you?? it is in very very good condition... Attached Images

24th January 2007, 07:37 PM	#2
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 987	It is difficult to tell anything from the photos, since they are so blurry. Do you have clearer ones?

24th January 2007, 07:48 PM	#3
BerberDagger Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 247	hello,thanks for reply.... photo are make with phone , and I have web can broke.... yes , is very difficult but it is very very good....if it is a reproduction it can only be a spanish reproduction of 1950-60...but I think it is original.... but what is caracteristic of original lutwaffe dagger vs fake?

24th January 2007, 07:49 PM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,262	This item does not really fall within the scope of this forum. Please see : http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=3942

24th January 2007, 10:11 PM	#6
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Hi BerberDagger, In a book I have, the examples of Shutzstaffel daggers don't have the stamped floral motifs on the scabbard tip and the guard, they are plain. I also don't see the circular stamp that is visible on yours...and I understand that WWII/Nazi militaria is notoriously prone to faking...maybe someone else can say if it's real. Emanuel

25th January 2007, 09:01 PM	#8
mross Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 478	I would take them over to here; http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/fo...play.php?f=691 Bernard can tell you if they are real or fake.

25th January 2007, 09:08 PM	#9
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 987	Understand, we're not chasing you away, BerberDagger. Its just that we don't have much expertise on this forum for these kinds of weapons. They just don't fit , so you are better off asking about these particular ones on one of the forums more oriented toward Western military arms. The definition of an "ethnographic weapon" found in the posting guidelines is really for the purpose of informing people of the kind of interest and expertise they are likely to find here.

25th January 2007, 09:29 PM	#10
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Berberdagger, I completely agree with Mark. But I can tel you that the ss-dagger is a new made replica. I recognize this thing, because I see those daggers often here in Holland. About the other dagger, the pictures are not good enough but I'm afraid it is a replica too. A real german WWII dagger is extremely expensive and you need a very good and reliable dealer for this stuff. And even then, when they handle a well made replica, they sometimes are mistaken.