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Old 11th August 2014, 09:21 AM   #1
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Default New Jersey Ivory ban....

Theres a new, total Ivory & rhino horn ban New Jersey ....it seems,

Makes illegal even the sale or transfer of antique, worked pieces.

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Old 11th August 2014, 10:22 AM   #2
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Thank you for the information.

Amazing to read that New Jersey is a hub for smuggling to China.
Unfortunately, if you close one route, a thousand other routes still exsist and if needed, new routes will be found.

When my minds takes a free ride, I can think of a solution by controlling the trade by the african governments.
Tusks and horns can be "harvested" without slaughtering the animals and sold on the free market to the highest bidder (China).
It would eliminate the poaching business and support african economies.

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Old 11th August 2014, 01:46 PM   #3
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Another solution would be to take all of the illegally poached ivory seized by the government, carve or tag a serial number on the piece where it could not be seen, register it with an agency and have them issue a certificate that the piece is 100% legal to own or trade.
Once all of the "legal ivory," floods the world, the price would be drastically driven down, making it much riskier for poachers for much less money.Take the money or a portion of it and purchase and support game reserves.
Destroying it only makes the price go up; also government bureaucrats deciding what is art, antique,or national treasures as opposed to burning the ivory reminds me of the Chinese Cultural Revolution where all art was seized, demolished and lost forever !
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Old 11th August 2014, 02:09 PM   #4
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Chaps, In all honesty although valid as ideas, they arnt going to solve the problem.

You could probably sell all the ivory & rhino horn in the world tomorrow & the new markets & investors would demand more. {just thing at how much ivory the western word gut through from 1850 to 1950.}

Selling heroin to a junkie never stopped them being a junkie. They always want more.

In truth I fear there is no solution. But banning the sale or transfer of genuine antiques in New Jersey clearly doesn't help either.


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Old 11th August 2014, 02:40 PM   #5
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I'm not sure that I would make a correlation between collecting ivory and the heinous physiological and mental addiction of heroine.
In the event that you are espousing the theory that collecting edge weapons is a compulsive behavior, then I would agree, I probably need an intervention .
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Old 11th August 2014, 03:30 PM   #6
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Your correct that is a bit of a stretch... but us weapons collectors indeed ,the majority of collectors probably exhibit addictive, compulsive behaviour.

Some suggest that collecting is a modern twist on the ancient hunting instinct.

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