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Old 19th June 2018, 10:55 PM   #31
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Don't know if this helps, but in Tagalog "manok/manuk" refers to the chicken. "Sari" has various usages depending upon context, but it generally means something like "various". In this context could be be like "fantastic" chicken or bird.
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Old 19th June 2018, 11:30 PM   #32
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Jose, if the people who own this little piece of culture are anything like a number of other cultures in SE Asia, just maybe this "fantastic bird" --- or whatever --- does not really refer to any sort of bird at all, it might mean, or refer to something that is completely hidden from all but the people who were entitled to hold that knowledge.

Consider the position of birds in general, and some birds in particular in the belief systems of peoples indigenous to Maritime SE Asia.
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Old 20th June 2018, 03:58 AM   #33
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Rather than turn this thread into another sarimanok discussion, I'm going to bring Ron's original thread on that subject back and add some new information that seems to support his idea.

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Old 19th July 2018, 05:43 AM   #34
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Hullo everybody!

Some examples from the Pralamba sub-group merely to share.

Kalis Baladaw Piliang PraLamba:

1.
Blade: LxOALxWxT=50x65x12.56x1.30cm.
Handle: Ivory saboeng; grip of white-metal rings w/ widjaja motif.
Wt: 760g.

2.
Blade: LxOALxWxT=49x61x10.52x1.10cm.
Handle: Ivory pommel w/ widjaja motif on white-metal grip; twin-katig.
Wt: 595g.

3.
Blade: LxOALxWxT=40.5x53.0x9.72x0.87cm.
Handle: Ivory kapoejoeh, grip w/ white-metal bands and twine.
Wt: 379g.

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Old 19th July 2018, 02:36 PM   #35
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Amuk:

Who are the Pralamba sub-group?


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Old 20th July 2018, 02:35 AM   #36
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Amuk:

Who are the Pralamba sub-group?

Ian, i only know Pralamba as a Hindu term.
Pralamba was an asura killed by Krishna.
I cannot see any connection to a Moro kris from that definition.
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