Unknown sword for ID ?

hbhansen · 18th August 2013, 04:32 PM

Can anyone help me on this one ?
And is the scabbard correct ?
Thanks
HB

fernando · 18th August 2013, 10:18 PM

Hi HB

Why don't you post a close up of the blade decoration .. and possible marks or inscriptions ?
Is there also some lettering in the pommel ?

hbhansen · 19th August 2013, 07:57 PM

Here are some more pics of the engravings on the blade, there are no stamps....nothing on the pommel.
Best
HB

fernando · 19th August 2013, 10:11 PM

a Solingen blade ?

hbhansen · 19th August 2013, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fernando

a Solingen blade ?

Maybe, there are no makers mark....

I wonder what this etching Means ?

Jim McDougall · 23rd August 2013, 09:41 PM

This appears to be of military officers dress sword form of late 18th into 19th and of type used on the Continent by a number of countries, The hilt seems though quite nondescript, and the casting of the brass far from crisp with an odd pallor to the brass. The wire wrap seems rather redone as well.
The blade does of course seem to be likely Solingen production but may be again, one of the Continental centers as we would expect some sort of marking or regulatory stamp somewhere here as well as on the hilt.

The blade seems of the period noted in spadroon type as favored and the engraved motif is simply flourish rather than significant maker or otherwise detail.

I wonder if this might be authentic blade of period with a more modern production hilt? It is not unusual to see Solingen 'blanks' of this period decorated by local artisans for outfitters.

Hotspur · 25th August 2013, 06:00 PM

Here is a plate from an old auction that lists these three as French spadroons. The one in the middle, quite like the sword in question here. While I can't explain the slightly rectangular mark, I have seen one very similar on a sword I once owned, known to be first empire French. Considering the timing, I wonder whether we might be looking at a blade sourced in France vs Solingen. There is no precedence I know of for that type of mark on a Solingen blade.

As to a more modern hilt, I somewhat don't think so.

Cheers

GC

18th August 2013, 04:32 PM	#1
hbhansen Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Denmark Posts: 89	Unknown sword for ID ? Can anyone help me on this one ? And is the scabbard correct ? Thanks HB Attached Images

19th August 2013, 07:57 PM	#3
hbhansen Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Denmark Posts: 89	Here are some more pics of the engravings on the blade, there are no stamps....nothing on the pommel. Best HB Attached Images

25th August 2013, 06:00 PM	#7
Hotspur Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Nipmuc USA Posts: 489	Here is a plate from an old auction that lists these three as French spadroons. The one in the middle, quite like the sword in question here. While I can't explain the slightly rectangular mark, I have seen one very similar on a sword I once owned, known to be first empire French. Considering the timing, I wonder whether we might be looking at a blade sourced in France vs Solingen. There is no precedence I know of for that type of mark on a Solingen blade. As to a more modern hilt, I somewhat don't think so. Cheers GC Attached Images

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18th August 2013, 10:18 PM	#2
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,636	Hi HB Why don't you post a close up of the blade decoration .. and possible marks or inscriptions ? Is there also some lettering in the pommel ?

19th August 2013, 10:11 PM	#4
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,636	a Solingen blade ?

23rd August 2013, 09:41 PM	#6
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 9,733	This appears to be of military officers dress sword form of late 18th into 19th and of type used on the Continent by a number of countries, The hilt seems though quite nondescript, and the casting of the brass far from crisp with an odd pallor to the brass. The wire wrap seems rather redone as well. The blade does of course seem to be likely Solingen production but may be again, one of the Continental centers as we would expect some sort of marking or regulatory stamp somewhere here as well as on the hilt. The blade seems of the period noted in spadroon type as favored and the engraved motif is simply flourish rather than significant maker or otherwise detail. I wonder if this might be authentic blade of period with a more modern production hilt? It is not unusual to see Solingen 'blanks' of this period decorated by local artisans for outfitters.