Three swords from Central Timor

milandro · 6th July 2023, 02:10 PM

the top one appears to be a repurposed Hembrug Dutch " Klewang"( the Army and Navy weapon still in used in the NL by the marechaussee and formerly used by the KNIL army)

Sajen · 6th July 2023, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by milandro

the top one appears to be a repurposed Hembrug Dutch " Klewang"( the Army and Navy weapon still in used in the NL by the marechaussee and formerly used by the KNIL army)

Yes, you are correct! It has a blade from a Hembrug klewang like I stated in #1. These swords Karel Sirag described in the book from Albert, "Traditional Weapons Of The Indonesian Archipelago" as "type c" have most of the time repurposed blades of European manufacture.
Thank you very much for the first comment!

Regards,
Detlef

milandro · 6th July 2023, 04:39 PM

cheers , sorry I have missed that part

Sajen · 6th July 2023, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by milandro

cheers , sorry I have missed that part

No need to say "sorry"! I am glad you got the ball rolling!

Interested Party · 11th July 2023, 01:54 PM

I'm sorry to see these haven't created more discussion. I wish I had something to add as I find these interesting. Did the culture use straight blades as well?

Sajen · 11th July 2023, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Interested Party

I'm sorry to see these haven't created more discussion. I wish I had something to add as I find these interesting. Did the culture use straight blades as well?

Thank you very much for interest!

And yes, there are straight blades as well but normally not by these "type c" swords which are attributed to the Antoni people.
Timor has many different ethnic groups, look for further information here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timor
And it's different when we speak about Timor (we mean normally this island) or when Indonesian people speak about Timor, they mean the complete Eastern Small Sunda Islands including Alor, Savu, Roti, Wetar and so on.
See also "Traditional Weapons Of The Indonesian Archipelago", when you have this book.
Attached is a picture of my South West Timor sword "type d" described by the same source.

Regards,
Detlef

David R · 1st December 2023, 09:38 PM

Very nice to see these three, thank you for posting. Like others I sometimes spend weeks or even months away from this forum, and then have a good old trawl through on all the new posts.

6th July 2023, 02:10 PM	#1
milandro Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: Netherlands Posts: 422	the top one appears to be a repurposed Hembrug Dutch " Klewang"( the Army and Navy weapon still in used in the NL by the marechaussee and formerly used by the KNIL army)

6th July 2023, 04:39 PM	#3
milandro Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: Netherlands Posts: 422	cheers , sorry I have missed that part

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Interested Party Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Eastern Sierra Posts: 392	I'm sorry to see these haven't created more discussion. I wish I had something to add as I find these interesting. Did the culture use straight blades as well?

1st December 2023, 09:38 PM	#7
David R Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,055	Very nice to see these three, thank you for posting. Like others I sometimes spend weeks or even months away from this forum, and then have a good old trawl through on all the new posts.