japanese sword id please

chiefheadknocker · 4th June 2017, 02:15 PM

I picked this sword up today at a local antique fair ,I paid £100 for it without knowing much about it or its value , I think its a ww2 army issue sword , any information on it would be much apretiated,
thanks

Kubur · 4th June 2017, 03:13 PM

Well it's far from my expertise, but I think that's a copy.
Did you try to open the hilt?

Rich · 4th June 2017, 03:48 PM

It's trying to be an NCO sword, but I tend to agree- most likely a copy. I've seen numerous NCO swords, but never one with Kanji on blade, usually just a serial number in Roman numerals. Also the lock doesn't look right among other things.

Rich

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Richard Stein, PhD, FAIC

Japanese Sword Guide
http://www.japaneseswordindex.com/nihonto.htm

RobertGuy · 4th June 2017, 10:55 PM

Chinese fake I think. The handle retaining screw is not correct, the blade should have a habaki (collar) and the kanji on the blade is spurious

pbleed · 5th June 2017, 12:43 AM

Yep, a Chinese "fake." The best possible construction is that it a post-War weapon made for the Peoples' Army - they did use IJA weapons as proto-types. It looks rather solidly made, but the Japanese date Showa 17, or 1942, is spurious. Whoever is making these things is getting better and better.
Peter

asomotif · 5th June 2017, 01:44 PM

Are there any markings on the handle just above the tsuba ?

Any chance to see the scabbard under the leather cover ?

chiefheadknocker · 5th June 2017, 05:12 PM

oh well looks ive been caught out , like my dad use to say, stick to what you know, not sure what to do with it now maybe stick it in auction I guess its not worth much ,
thanks for all your replies

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4th June 2017, 03:13 PM	#2
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Well it's far from my expertise, but I think that's a copy. Did you try to open the hilt?

4th June 2017, 03:48 PM	#3
Rich Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: comfortably at home, USA Posts: 432	It's trying to be an NCO sword, but I tend to agree- most likely a copy. I've seen numerous NCO swords, but never one with Kanji on blade, usually just a serial number in Roman numerals. Also the lock doesn't look right among other things. Rich ------------------------------------------------------- Richard Stein, PhD, FAIC Japanese Sword Guide http://www.japaneseswordindex.com/nihonto.htm

4th June 2017, 10:55 PM	#4
RobertGuy Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 135	Chinese fake I think. The handle retaining screw is not correct, the blade should have a habaki (collar) and the kanji on the blade is spurious

5th June 2017, 12:43 AM	#5
pbleed Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Little Rock, Arkansas Posts: 88	Yep, a Chinese "fake." The best possible construction is that it a post-War weapon made for the Peoples' Army - they did use IJA weapons as proto-types. It looks rather solidly made, but the Japanese date Showa 17, or 1942, is spurious. Whoever is making these things is getting better and better. Peter

5th June 2017, 01:44 PM	#6
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,221	Are there any markings on the handle just above the tsuba ? Any chance to see the scabbard under the leather cover ?

5th June 2017, 05:12 PM	#7
chiefheadknocker Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 143	oh well looks ive been caught out , like my dad use to say, stick to what you know, not sure what to do with it now maybe stick it in auction I guess its not worth much , thanks for all your replies