A few knives, British Museum

Tim Simmons · 9th October 2009, 07:25 PM

Went to town today and took some pictures of the weapons that were close to the glass. I like them!

Tim Simmons · 9th October 2009, 07:30 PM

A few other of things that caught my eye.

fearn · 9th October 2009, 07:41 PM

Okay, you got me: where did those copper blades come from?

Nice pics, too.

Best,

F

Lew · 9th October 2009, 07:57 PM

Have no clue as far the copper ones go but the others are Black Foot dags that where made in Sheffield and sold to Native American Indians during the 18th-19th centuries.

Tim Simmons · 9th October 2009, 08:51 PM

I went to the new Montazuma 11 {if that is the correct spelling these days} Exhibition which was very good. Rather busy with people in the way and coughing, yuk!!! { I am such a snob

}

The spendid copper knives are Esxmo though that is not a cool name now but I am not sure I can spell Iniut correctly off the top of my head. They look like Congo Saka knives. The copper knives in the second post were from areas south of the Inuit but still up there in the cold.

I am going to start another topic with pictures of two knives from a new book all help will be needed.

fearn · 9th October 2009, 08:58 PM

I should clarify. My guesses on the copper knives are:

1. Aleut or Inuit (eskimo)
2. Pacific northwest (probably from British Columbian coast)

[EDIT: Tim, you wrote while I was posting! Were the knives Tlingit or Tsimshian?]

The first pic are maori clubs: what looks like a greenstone mere, a sperm whale bone wahaika, and a basalt patu (or it might be another mere--hard to tell).

I agree with Louie on the Indian trade dags. The next is a wahaika, and bone dagger (guessing Papua New Guinea, but it could be from North America as well). Someone else can put the proper name on that Yoruban saber.

Personally, I think Tim took some great pics, and it's nice to have them to puzzle out, rather than him telling us what they are out right.

Now, what we *really* need is an ID on what's on tap in the next picture

Best,

F

Lew · 9th October 2009, 09:04 PM

Fearn

That pic only increases my thirst for knowlege!

Norman McCormick · 9th October 2009, 09:13 PM

Hi Tim,
Your 'Mum' looks very smart!!!

My Regards,
Norman.

Tim Simmons · 9th October 2009, 09:21 PM

Thanks Norman I will let her know.

ariel · 10th October 2009, 12:39 AM

The Blue one is really old... :-)

Nathaniel · 10th October 2009, 02:24 AM

Thanks for sharing Tim. Love added picture of the Queen Mum

Tim Simmons · 10th October 2009, 04:33 PM

Ariel, set foot on UK soil and its off to the TOWER with you.

9th October 2009, 07:25 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,739	A few knives, British Museum Went to town today and took some pictures of the weapons that were close to the glass. I like them! Attached Images

9th October 2009, 07:30 PM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,739	A few other of things that caught my eye. Attached Images

9th October 2009, 08:58 PM	#6
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	I should clarify. My guesses on the copper knives are: 1. Aleut or Inuit (eskimo) 2. Pacific northwest (probably from British Columbian coast) [EDIT: Tim, you wrote while I was posting! Were the knives Tlingit or Tsimshian?] The first pic are maori clubs: what looks like a greenstone mere, a sperm whale bone wahaika, and a basalt patu (or it might be another mere--hard to tell). I agree with Louie on the Indian trade dags. The next is a wahaika, and bone dagger (guessing Papua New Guinea, but it could be from North America as well). Someone else can put the proper name on that Yoruban saber. Personally, I think Tim took some great pics, and it's nice to have them to puzzle out, rather than him telling us what they are out right. Now, what we really need is an ID on what's on tap in the next picture Best, F Last edited by fearn; 9th October 2009 at 09:17 PM.

10th October 2009, 04:33 PM	#12
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,739	To the tower!!!! Ariel, set foot on UK soil and its off to the TOWER with you.

9th October 2009, 07:41 PM	#3
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	Okay, you got me: where did those copper blades come from? Nice pics, too. Best, F

9th October 2009, 07:57 PM	#4
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Have no clue as far the copper ones go but the others are Black Foot dags that where made in Sheffield and sold to Native American Indians during the 18th-19th centuries.

9th October 2009, 08:51 PM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,739	I went to the new Montazuma 11 {if that is the correct spelling these days} Exhibition which was very good. Rather busy with people in the way and coughing, yuk!!! { I am such a snob } The spendid copper knives are Esxmo though that is not a cool name now but I am not sure I can spell Iniut correctly off the top of my head. They look like Congo Saka knives. The copper knives in the second post were from areas south of the Inuit but still up there in the cold. I am going to start another topic with pictures of two knives from a new book all help will be needed.

9th October 2009, 09:04 PM	#7
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Fearn That pic only increases my thirst for knowlege!

9th October 2009, 09:13 PM	#8
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,576	Hi Tim, Your 'Mum' looks very smart!!! My Regards, Norman.

9th October 2009, 09:21 PM	#9
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,739	Thanks Norman I will let her know.

10th October 2009, 12:39 AM	#10
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	The Blue one is really old... :-)

10th October 2009, 02:24 AM	#11
Nathaniel Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 865	Thanks for sharing Tim. Love added picture of the Queen Mum