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Old 7th May 2013, 04:14 PM   #1
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Default indian sword for a child please comment!!

Here are some pictures of a small Indian sword. I think for a child.
the first three pictures I had just cleaned the blade, and my surprise is damas
Then I cleaned the handle ...
it measures 65cm long, 53cm blade and a small handful, I think for a child,
have you ever seen a small model of this style??
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Old 7th May 2013, 07:53 PM   #2
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Here are some pictures of a small Indian sword. I think for a child.
the first three pictures I had just cleaned the blade, and my surprise is damas
Then I cleaned the handle ...
it measures 65cm long, 53cm blade and a small handful, I think for a child,
have you ever seen a small model of this style??

Salaams weapons 27 ~ Do you not think it could be a snapped blade reworked as a long dagger ... shortsword..? The tip looks newly worked? Of course it could be a snapped sword reworked as a childs sword..Hmmm....

Nice pattern on the blade and it is cleaning up well... Thanks.

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Old 7th May 2013, 08:04 PM   #3
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hi weapons 27,

interesting.. Indian firangi style small sword, is it edged both sided or have spine ?
i would like see if so... please post photo of spine then i will post my opinion sir !

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Old 7th May 2013, 08:08 PM   #4
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Very Interesting quite a find The ricasso area pattern looks much bigger than the rest of the blade. Perhaps, it is due to more forge work at the hilt. I'm really liking your progress done without making the blade look over cleaned. Care to share the steps used? Steve
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Old 7th May 2013, 09:39 PM   #5
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Care to share the steps used? Steve
Yes, please share your cleaning process.
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Old 8th May 2013, 06:19 AM   #6
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Salaams weapons 27 ~ Do you not think it could be a snapped blade reworked as a long dagger ... shortsword..? The tip looks newly worked? Of course it could be a snapped sword reworked as a childs sword..Hmmm....

Nice pattern on the blade and it is cleaning up well... Thanks.

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hi ibrahim
I do not think that this is a broken blade, I think that this sword was made for a child
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Old 8th May 2013, 06:31 AM   #7
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hi soni

both sides of the blade are in Damas
the blade 4mm thickness
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Old 8th May 2013, 06:45 AM   #8
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Very Interesting quite a find The ricasso area pattern looks much bigger than the rest of the blade. Perhaps, it is due to more forge work at the hilt. I'm really liking your progress done without making the blade look over cleaned. Care to share the steps used? Steve
have used the process to our friend ARIEL."for the blade, paper body car has used a "water grain 800, and 1200...the blade was in the same State as the handle!
then after the sanding rinse with SOAP or dishwashing liquid with water...dry, degrease the blade with alcohol or acetone.dry.heat hot vinegar and pass it on the blade with a cloth or sponge,neutralize with bicarbonate soude diluted with water about four large spoons to 5 litres hot water...Let it soak for about 5 minutes, rinse has water clear, wipe, dry and lubricate with wd40...
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Yes, please share your cleaning process.
to handle I use these brushes that it sell for stripping paint from wood, medium grain and fine grain, after I take these round brushes used a polishing, fine grain, we can use it on a normal blade, especially not on a slide and woots Damascus!!!!!!
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Old 8th May 2013, 03:17 PM   #10
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Nice find! Just FYI, I remember seeing blades made for children in museums in India.
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Old 8th May 2013, 03:18 PM   #11
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On a side note....
As a conservator I must say the sight of those brushes brings horror to my morning coffee
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As a conservator I must say the sight of those brushes brings horror to my morning coffee
Those brushes scared me too! What would you do Ann?
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Old 9th May 2013, 05:11 AM   #13
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hi
these brushes are used for cleaning wood ... they should be used when there is a large surface rust with red brush, it does not scratch the metal, and blue for finishing! other two are for polish ... it is not a metal brushes that lines metal, that are used in carpentry
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Old 9th May 2013, 04:28 PM   #14
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Hi,
How big is the grip?
This may be able to tell us if the sword is for a child, or if it is shortened.
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How big is the grip?
This may be able to tell us if the sword is for a child, or if it is shortened.
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hi jens
the handle measuring inside 7.5 cm to the passage of the hand, I put three fingers... it's a handle for a child...
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How big is the grip?
This may be able to tell us if the sword is for a child, or if it is shortened.
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Here is the difference between a firangi and handle for child
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A grip measuring 7.5 cm doesn't mean that it was made for a child/young man, but it could have been.
Is the width of the blade 'normal'? If it is made for a child, I would think the blade would have been made to fit the length.
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A grip measuring 7.5 cm doesn't mean that it was made for a child/young man, but it could have been.
Is the width of the blade 'normal'? If it is made for a child, I would think the blade would have been made to fit the length.
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the width of the blade is 3 cm at the beginning of the handle and 2.5 cm in the middle of the blade
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What is the width of your other swords of the same type?
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hi jens
the two firangi I have, the blade measures 4cm at the beginning of the handle and 3.5 cm in the middle of the blade
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My firangi blades measure from 3 to 4 cm.
However, as firangi blades were mostly European, and your short one maybe Indian, these measures leads us nowhere.
So the riddle is not yet solved.
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