Hairy Binángon

Robert · 24th January 2011, 05:05 PM

Just picked this up, a binangon with a strange hilt and a hair covered throat piece. It is uncleaned and in the shape that it was found. I really don't think that the hilt is original to the piece but I could be wrong. If anyone happens to have a proper hilt for this please let me know. Comments on possible age or anything else about this would be very welcome. Thank you.

Robert

Battara · 25th January 2011, 04:30 AM

I am hesitant on the nomenclature because of recent research from the island it comes from. This according to the blade and scabbard comes from Iloilo and I would suggest that it was originally a tenegre with a later hilt replacement.

Robert · 25th January 2011, 04:50 AM

Hello Jose and thank you for the information on the correct name for this. Would you change the hilt on this or leave it as is ? Is it common for these to have the hair left on the leather piece? I do not recall ever seeing one with hair on it like this before.

Robert

Battara · 25th January 2011, 06:18 AM

Regarding the hair on the scabbard, I actually have seen hair on them like this before. Leave it alone since it is part of the actual manufacture.

On the hilt, well, I guess you could also leave it alone since it is later, but not too late. Part of the working life of the piece? (unless you know of someone who can create a carved hilt for it, but why not leave it as is since the carving is good on it.).

Robert · 25th January 2011, 03:27 PM

Jose, I would never change or remove the hair on the scabbard, I was just wondering whether or not to change the hilt to a more traditional form. Thank you again for your help.

Robert

Spunjer · 25th January 2011, 06:14 PM

it's a binangon, no doubt. no matter how you slice and dice it, it's what we would call that piece.

Battara · 26th January 2011, 02:42 AM

Ron is this based on the blade? Also is this based on nomenclature from Iloilo? I know that there was speculation on catagorization years ago here, but no hard evidence.

Spunjer · 28th January 2011, 05:55 PM

jose, dunno how technical they were back in the old days, but growing up, anything larger than a butcher knife was called a binangon

Robert · 28th January 2011, 07:05 PM

Anyone have an idea of the age of this piece or when the hilt might have been replaced?

Robert

24th January 2011, 05:05 PM	#1
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Hairy Binángon Just picked this up, a binangon with a strange hilt and a hair covered throat piece. It is uncleaned and in the shape that it was found. I really don't think that the hilt is original to the piece but I could be wrong. If anyone happens to have a proper hilt for this please let me know. Comments on possible age or anything else about this would be very welcome. Thank you. Robert Attached Images Last edited by Robert Coleman; 24th January 2011 at 05:17 PM.

25th January 2011, 04:30 AM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,139	I am hesitant on the nomenclature because of recent research from the island it comes from. This according to the blade and scabbard comes from Iloilo and I would suggest that it was originally a tenegre with a later hilt replacement.

25th January 2011, 04:50 AM	#3
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Hello Jose and thank you for the information on the correct name for this. Would you change the hilt on this or leave it as is ? Is it common for these to have the hair left on the leather piece? I do not recall ever seeing one with hair on it like this before. Robert

25th January 2011, 06:18 AM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,139	Regarding the hair on the scabbard, I actually have seen hair on them like this before. Leave it alone since it is part of the actual manufacture. On the hilt, well, I guess you could also leave it alone since it is later, but not too late. Part of the working life of the piece? (unless you know of someone who can create a carved hilt for it, but why not leave it as is since the carving is good on it.).

25th January 2011, 03:27 PM	#5
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Jose, I would never change or remove the hair on the scabbard, I was just wondering whether or not to change the hilt to a more traditional form. Thank you again for your help. Robert

25th January 2011, 06:14 PM	#6
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	it's a binangon, no doubt. no matter how you slice and dice it, it's what we would call that piece.

26th January 2011, 02:42 AM	#7
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,139	Ron is this based on the blade? Also is this based on nomenclature from Iloilo? I know that there was speculation on catagorization years ago here, but no hard evidence.

28th January 2011, 05:55 PM	#8
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	jose, dunno how technical they were back in the old days, but growing up, anything larger than a butcher knife was called a binangon

28th January 2011, 07:05 PM	#9
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Anyone have an idea of the age of this piece or when the hilt might have been replaced? Robert