Spanish Pistol ID

rickystl · 23rd March 2013, 08:08 PM

Hello everyone. I've been away from the Forum for a while now. There are many gun posts I need to catch up with. And a number of posts I need to make.

Meantime, I am trying to help a collector associate. Here are a pair of Spanish (?) pistols he owns. Possibly Portuguese? we are trying to locate the origin of this mark on the barrel and tang. James Lavin's book on Spanish firearms does not list it. The anchor would seem to indicate Navel use (?) My guess as to a date would be between 1770 and 1810. But the Spanish returned to the miquelet style lock around 1790.
Any help with I.D. and barrel mark much appreciated. Thanks, Rick.

rickystl · 23rd March 2013, 08:10 PM

By the way. The stamp is an anchor under a crown.

kahnjar1 · 24th March 2013, 12:33 AM

Hi Rick,
I have checked thru my books on Proof marks and can not locate this particular one. It COULD be some sort of Armoury mark. Are there any marks UNDER the barrels?
Both the pistols have belt hooks so COULD be for naval use but then some land use pistols also had belt hooks.
Stu

fernando · 24th March 2013, 11:58 AM

Try checking on Spanish Navy pistol circa 1780. French style conventional lock, 15 caliber (19 m/m). Barrel length 21,1 cms. The initial A stands for Armada (same as Marina = Navy).
J.L. Calvó Pascual ARMAMENTO ESPAÑOL DE LA GUERRA DE LA INDEPENDENCIA. Page 42 image #25.

rickystl · 24th March 2013, 04:59 PM

Hi Kahnjar. Thanks for checking. Rick.

rickystl · 24th March 2013, 05:11 PM

Hi Fernando! Thanks for the info. With the anchor under a crown, and the letter A meaning Armada, it appears the pistols were made for Navel use.
The pistols do look Spanish military. Thanks again. Rick.

23rd March 2013, 08:08 PM	#1
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,621	Spanish Pistol ID Hello everyone. I've been away from the Forum for a while now. There are many gun posts I need to catch up with. And a number of posts I need to make. Meantime, I am trying to help a collector associate. Here are a pair of Spanish (?) pistols he owns. Possibly Portuguese? we are trying to locate the origin of this mark on the barrel and tang. James Lavin's book on Spanish firearms does not list it. The anchor would seem to indicate Navel use (?) My guess as to a date would be between 1770 and 1810. But the Spanish returned to the miquelet style lock around 1790. Any help with I.D. and barrel mark much appreciated. Thanks, Rick. Attached Images

24th March 2013, 12:33 AM	#3
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,730	Hi Rick, I have checked thru my books on Proof marks and can not locate this particular one. It COULD be some sort of Armoury mark. Are there any marks UNDER the barrels? Both the pistols have belt hooks so COULD be for naval use but then some land use pistols also had belt hooks. Stu Last edited by kahnjar1; 24th March 2013 at 02:28 AM.

23rd March 2013, 08:10 PM	#2
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,621	By the way. The stamp is an anchor under a crown.

24th March 2013, 11:58 AM	#4
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,643	Try checking on Spanish Navy pistol circa 1780. French style conventional lock, 15 caliber (19 m/m). Barrel length 21,1 cms. The initial A stands for Armada (same as Marina = Navy). J.L. Calvó Pascual ARMAMENTO ESPAÑOL DE LA GUERRA DE LA INDEPENDENCIA. Page 42 image #25.

24th March 2013, 04:59 PM	#5
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,621	Hi Kahnjar. Thanks for checking. Rick.

24th March 2013, 05:11 PM	#6
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,621	Hi Fernando! Thanks for the info. With the anchor under a crown, and the letter A meaning Armada, it appears the pistols were made for Navel use. The pistols do look Spanish military. Thanks again. Rick.