please id spear point

weapons 27 · 1st March 2015, 11:58 AM

I need your knowledge to identify this spear point
What worries me for whatever African is the diameter of the sleeve of this spear point and the end of the tip of the spear she ends this reinforced tip
the diameter is 2, 5cm, total length is 75cm, blade has a central Ridge

Battara · 1st March 2015, 06:48 PM

Looks African to me.

kronckew · 1st March 2015, 08:59 PM

ditto. sudan/no. africa, lance point?

Martin Lubojacky · 2nd March 2015, 07:36 AM

This is from north Nigeria, spearhead point was modified additionaly.
Martin

Iain · 2nd March 2015, 09:20 AM

Yes Adamawa region or into North Cameroon as well.

The spear point I think is a slightly modification done to assist in armour piercing.

weapons 27 · 2nd March 2015, 04:38 PM

do you know the length of the handle of this type of spear... do you have a picture
thank

Iain · 9th April 2015, 06:50 PM

I was fortunate enough to acquire this lance from our fellow forumite. He has shown the details pretty well I think but I took a few images to show the real scale of how big this lance is!

I'm also including a scan from a book which sites one of these collected in Ilorin but notes the type also is found in Bornu. Added to one of the same pattern I already own (shown in on of the comparison photos) field collected in Cameroon, we can say this was a widespread pattern.

thinreadline · 9th April 2015, 11:06 PM

Yes I have a lance in my own collection with a very similar decorated blade which I haven taken to be from Bornu . There is a in Liverpool museum an excellent display of a mounted Bornu warrior equiped with a similar lance, the horse & rider having full quilted armour.

Iain · 10th April 2015, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinreadline

Yes I have a lance in my own collection with a very similar decorated blade which I haven taken to be from Bornu . There is a in Liverpool museum an excellent display of a mounted Bornu warrior equiped with a similar lance, the horse & rider having full quilted armour.

I remember it well! http://vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=12999

A great complete example. There seem to be some subtle differences with these depending on the region. But the overall form stays the same.

1st March 2015, 11:58 AM	#1
weapons 27 Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 462	please id spear point I need your knowledge to identify this spear point What worries me for whatever African is the diameter of the sleeve of this spear point and the end of the tip of the spear she ends this reinforced tip the diameter is 2, 5cm, total length is 75cm, blade has a central Ridge Attached Images

9th April 2015, 06:50 PM	#7
Iain Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Olomouc Posts: 1,680	I was fortunate enough to acquire this lance from our fellow forumite. He has shown the details pretty well I think but I took a few images to show the real scale of how big this lance is! I'm also including a scan from a book which sites one of these collected in Ilorin but notes the type also is found in Bornu. Added to one of the same pattern I already own (shown in on of the comparison photos) field collected in Cameroon, we can say this was a widespread pattern. Attached Images

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1st March 2015, 06:48 PM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,139	Looks African to me.

1st March 2015, 08:59 PM	#3
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,148	ditto. sudan/no. africa, lance point?

2nd March 2015, 07:36 AM	#4
Martin Lubojacky Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 836	This is from north Nigeria, spearhead point was modified additionaly. Martin

2nd March 2015, 09:20 AM	#5
Iain Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Olomouc Posts: 1,680	Yes Adamawa region or into North Cameroon as well. The spear point I think is a slightly modification done to assist in armour piercing.

2nd March 2015, 04:38 PM	#6
weapons 27 Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 462	do you know the length of the handle of this type of spear... do you have a picture thank

9th April 2015, 11:06 PM	#8
thinreadline Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Wirral Posts: 1,204	Yes I have a lance in my own collection with a very similar decorated blade which I haven taken to be from Bornu . There is a in Liverpool museum an excellent display of a mounted Bornu warrior equiped with a similar lance, the horse & rider having full quilted armour.