Ethnographic Arms & Armour
 

Go Back   Ethnographic Arms & Armour > Discussion Forums > Ethnographic Weapons
FAQ Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 19th October 2007, 11:45 AM   #1
semar
Member
 
semar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 272
Default trisula for comment

trisula
pamor wengkon
periode Tuban

regarts semar
Attached Images
       
semar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19th October 2007, 09:03 PM   #2
Raden Usman Djogja
Member
 
Raden Usman Djogja's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 199
Default

Hi...Semar,

Interesting trisula. Please upload more pictures. Is it your family heirloom? Or you have just bought from a keris trader. If you have just bought it, perhaps it's better you bring it back soon before losing money.

regards,
Usman
Raden Usman Djogja is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th October 2007, 02:39 PM   #3
David
Keris forum moderator
 
David's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Nova Scotia
Posts: 7,026
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Raden Usman Djogja
Hi...Semar,

Interesting trisula. Please upload more pictures. Is it your family heirloom? Or you have just bought from a keris trader. If you have just bought it, perhaps it's better you bring it back soon before losing money.

regards,
Usman
Usman, perhaps it would be best for you to follow up on these comments. At first you call it "interesting", but you obviously seem to think this is not a very good example. Could you elaborate on this? A critical analysis is always welcome when done is a civil and constructive manner, but we learn nothing from hints and inuendos. Personally i know very little about these weapons, but would like to know more. And if i were Semar i would rather know the truth about my trisula, good or bad.
David is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st October 2007, 03:13 AM   #4
ganjawulung
Member
 
ganjawulung's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: J a k a r t a
Posts: 991
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by semar
trisula
pamor wengkon
periode Tuban

regarts semar
Dear Semar,

There are at least, two kinds of trisula. One is "straight trisula" (yours), and the other is combination of trisula with luks. And the luks, usually the combination of three and five luks (pls look at my trisula, I've posted in other thread before). The counts of straight, three and five, are based on certain Hindu philosophy -- I think. Three, for instance, related to the oneness of the three Hindu gods: Brahma, Vishnu, and Siva.

Iras type of trisula, would be a better trisula. Yours is iras type. But unfortunately, my trisula is from the two-piece type. Trisula used to be a pusaka, and not a weapon for fighting. And for me, it is embarassing that in Cirebon palace -- a palace of Islamic kingdom from 15th century in the west part of Central Java -- trisula became their pusaka. Did they still worship their "hindhu" ancestor of Pajajaran Kingdom of the 13th century? Kudi or kujang -- pusaka of Pajajaran -- also became their sacred heirloom. You may look at their palace Museum, in Kasepuhan palace, Cirebon.

Ganjawulung
Attached Images
    
ganjawulung is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 11:06 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Posts are regarded as being copyrighted by their authors and the act of posting material is deemed to be a granting of an irrevocable nonexclusive license for display here.