Bugis keris for comment

Lew · 17th May 2007, 01:26 PM

Picked this up the other day the blade is in great shape so I fitted it with some spare parts I had let me know what you think. The blade is 13" long.

Lew

David · 17th May 2007, 02:26 PM

Nice blade Lew, with what appears to be a form of "standing" pamor pattern.

It's can be hard (for me at least

) to determine origin when all you are presented with is the blade, especially with the Bugis, who as we know, got around. But i think your choice of a Sulawesi hilt is as good a guess as any. It seems to suit this blade well.
Now...to find a sheath.

Marcokeris · 17th May 2007, 03:54 PM

Nice old right blade with nice old right mendak with nice old right handle in nice bugis style!
Now the blade want to marry with a nice sarong!... and to meet warangan

Henk · 17th May 2007, 07:37 PM

Very nice blade, Lew. Just as a Bugis should be. No warangan for this guy. A Bugis blade is kept this way. Hey, I'm though and mean, I'm a warrior. (I quoted one of our members.)

Newsteel · 18th May 2007, 07:58 AM

One of those examples of good blade. Nice I must say. My preference, I like to have slightly etch with warangan to see slightly darkened, making it more fierce looking I thought.

Alam Shah · 18th May 2007, 09:05 AM

Nice, very nice indeed. The hilt, hilt cup is a match for this piece.
The blade is a fine example of this form. Congrats!

I'm with Henk, no warangan for this piece, but a light fruit acids could perhaps darken the blade, a little.

Battara · 18th May 2007, 07:28 PM

I like, I like.....could the blade denote chieftain's piece?

Henk · 18th May 2007, 11:52 PM

Just like Alam Shah said and how it is done with bugis keris. Cleaning with fruit acid only.

Marcokeris · 19th May 2007, 11:58 AM

in my opinion a little warangan could be nice to see pattern.

Here an example

Alam Shah · 19th May 2007, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcokeris

in my opinion a little warangan could be nice to see pattern.

Here an example

True, but it looks more Javanese... don't you think.

Anyway, it's owner's personal preference.

Btw, your's a nice example as well. Could we see the whole blade?

Henk · 19th May 2007, 09:00 PM

Marcokeris,

You have a very nice keris, but I go with Alam Shah. The condition of your blade is a bugis keris with his first etch.

The Prince of the Netherlands who passed away was given a Bugis keris, just an example like yours but probably with a more royal dress. A member of the staff of his late royal higness was instructed how to take care for the keris because the prince wished that his keris was looked after with the ceremonial rules, just because of respect. The staff member cleaned every period the blade with lime juice. And as we know the lime juice fade away the black arsenic corosion of the iron. So the blade of the keris of his late royal highness must have been looked like the blade of Lew, maybe a bit darker because of the etching with lime juice and the residu of the still present arsenic on the blade.

BluErf · 20th May 2007, 03:44 AM

Very sweet waves, and beautifully executed greneng. Southern coastal Sumatran, I reckon. You may want to consider a sheath like this:

PS: keris is not mine. Was on ebay a while back. Sorry to the new owner, but just for reference please.

17th May 2007, 01:26 PM	#1
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Bugis keris for comment Picked this up the other day the blade is in great shape so I fitted it with some spare parts I had let me know what you think. The blade is 13" long. Lew Attached Images

19th May 2007, 11:58 AM	#9
Marcokeris Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 928	in my opinion a little warangan could be nice to see pattern. Here an example Attached Images

20th May 2007, 03:44 AM	#12
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Very sweet waves, and beautifully executed greneng. Southern coastal Sumatran, I reckon. You may want to consider a sheath like this: PS: keris is not mine. Was on ebay a while back. Sorry to the new owner, but just for reference please. Attached Images

17th May 2007, 02:26 PM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,024	Nice blade Lew, with what appears to be a form of "standing" pamor pattern. It's can be hard (for me at least ) to determine origin when all you are presented with is the blade, especially with the Bugis, who as we know, got around. But i think your choice of a Sulawesi hilt is as good a guess as any. It seems to suit this blade well. Now...to find a sheath.

17th May 2007, 03:54 PM	#3
Marcokeris Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 928	Nice old right blade with nice old right mendak with nice old right handle in nice bugis style! Now the blade want to marry with a nice sarong!... and to meet warangan

17th May 2007, 07:37 PM	#4
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Very nice blade, Lew. Just as a Bugis should be. No warangan for this guy. A Bugis blade is kept this way. Hey, I'm though and mean, I'm a warrior. (I quoted one of our members.)

18th May 2007, 07:58 AM	#5
Newsteel Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 132	One of those examples of good blade. Nice I must say. My preference, I like to have slightly etch with warangan to see slightly darkened, making it more fierce looking I thought.

18th May 2007, 09:05 AM	#6
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Nice, very nice indeed. The hilt, hilt cup is a match for this piece. The blade is a fine example of this form. Congrats! I'm with Henk, no warangan for this piece, but a light fruit acids could perhaps darken the blade, a little.

18th May 2007, 07:28 PM	#7
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,139	I like, I like.....could the blade denote chieftain's piece?

18th May 2007, 11:52 PM	#8
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Just like Alam Shah said and how it is done with bugis keris. Cleaning with fruit acid only.

19th May 2007, 09:00 PM	#11
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Marcokeris, You have a very nice keris, but I go with Alam Shah. The condition of your blade is a bugis keris with his first etch. The Prince of the Netherlands who passed away was given a Bugis keris, just an example like yours but probably with a more royal dress. A member of the staff of his late royal higness was instructed how to take care for the keris because the prince wished that his keris was looked after with the ceremonial rules, just because of respect. The staff member cleaned every period the blade with lime juice. And as we know the lime juice fade away the black arsenic corosion of the iron. So the blade of the keris of his late royal highness must have been looked like the blade of Lew, maybe a bit darker because of the etching with lime juice and the residu of the still present arsenic on the blade.