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Old 26th February 2023, 03:08 PM   #1
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Oh, and a possible period depiction of a S-quilloned sabre can be found here:
https://it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File...Capistrano.jpg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...t%C3%A1ban.jpg
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L'Aquila, Museo Nationale, Maestro di San Giovanni da Capistrano (Giovanni di Bartolomeo dell’Aquila), cc.1480-1485.
The four side panels represent scenes of the saint's life [counter-clockwise]: in the upper left panel, Holy Mass celebrated on the battle field in the presence of the Crusaders below it, the Battle of Belgrade, where the Crusaders fought against the Turks in the top right panel, a sermon given by St. John in L'Aquila, during which some possessed people were healed. in the background is the Cathedral of St. Maximus, as it would appear before the catastrophic earthquake of 1703 that destroyed it almost completely. in the lower right panel, the death of the saint. The panel, dated between 1480 and 1485 (and then just thirty years after the death of the saint) was first attributed to Sebastiano di Cola from Casentino; later on, to a "Maestro delle Storie di S. Giovanni da Capestrano", who also authored "St. Francis Receiving the Stigmata", stored in the same room of the museum. According to the latest studies, this Maestro should be identified with Giovanni di Bartolomeo from Aquila, as recorded in Naples by a notary deed of June 1448: this painter shows a Gothic formation in his meticulous attention to detail, and a Renaissance influence in the use of perspective and volumes.
Siege of Belgrade 1456, depiction from 1480-85. The Ottomans are depicted as having S-quilloned sabres, though single-handed and without pommels.
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Old 26th February 2023, 06:51 PM   #2
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Oh, and a possible period depiction of a S-quilloned sabre can be found here:
Very interesting and not one I have seen before. Thanks for sharing so much in this excellent thread!

There are a number of artworks from around 1470-1510, from Italy, Austria, Hungary, and Slovakia, that show very well this distinctive Southeastern-European style of hilt, mostly on straight-bladed swords. The Austrian image database is a good resource for this:

https://www.imareal.sbg.ac.at/en/realonline/
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Very interesting and not one I have seen before. Thanks for sharing so much in this excellent thread
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Glad you liked it, I found it by chance recently. If you have any other works of art in mind, please feel free to post them. Even though the topic is "Wallachian swords of the 15th century ", I believe it is important to understand what was available in geographically close regions, and even in other time periods to give context, especially considering the scarcity of period sources of on the actual topic. My only request is to post the source site for the picture/info if possible.
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Ok, back to Wallachian stuff. Here are some more pictures of the 2 pages (143 and 146) depicting the Battle of Posada 1330 from the Chronicon Pictum. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Battle1330.jpg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...dai_csata1.JPG
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...dai_csata2.JPG
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:V...cle_Posada.jpg


Chronicon Pictum (Page 144) - King Charles receives the envoy of Voivode Basarab In the initial "N", on the left, the envoy hands over a letter from Voivode Basarab to King Charles Robert. The King is in armor, the envoy has a long hair, is in a long Cuman dress, with a helmet in his left hand.

Basarab sent honorable messengers to the king and said: "You have toiled, my lord the king, with gathering an army: for that I give seven thousand silver marks as compensation for your toil. I also hand over Szörény to you in peace with all the ingredients, which you captured by force; moreover, I will faithfully pay the tribute every year, which I owe to your crown, and I will also send one of my sons to your court, at your expense, with my money and expenses: just return in peace and do not put your men in danger, because if you come further, you will not avoid danger." Upon hearing this, the king with an arrogant mind said these words to the messengers: "Tell Basarab: he is the shepherd of my sheep; I will pull him out of his hiding place by his beard!"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chroni...ét_fogadja.jpg

And one from Johannes de Thurocz's Chronica Hungarorum (1488)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:B...ungarorum).jpg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...a_Thuroczy.jpg

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1 - according to wiki, the Chronicon Pictum was written between 15th of May 1358 and 1370-73. So the last pages, those depicting the Battle of Posada, where made during the early 1370s.
2 - most Wallachians are depicted as wearing sheep skin hats and coats, and having long dark hair. Othersare very Cuman-like in appearance, might actually be Cumans (like Basarab's envoy). Even the sheep-skin wearing individuals are using recurve bows.
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