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27th July 2017, 08:09 PM | #1 |
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Hello Kai,
crazy that you don't have received any comments until now! A truly beautiful sword you have acquired there, love the beautiful carved Makara handle. And you have done a very good research and the Malay origin seems to be a very good possibility also when the Makara from the Malay badek look slightly different but I can't offer a better origin from your nice pedang. Sadly the handle missing it's upper handle sleeve. Again, a truly beauty! Regards, Detlef |
27th July 2017, 10:04 PM | #2 |
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Kai, a very nice sword.
Only one thing - the metal sleeves and the motif on them is what we often seen on refurbished Minang and Palembang Kerisses coming out of post WWII Sumatra. I see the reason, why these could be Malayan, but... am not 100% sure about it. |
27th July 2017, 11:58 PM | #3 |
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So Gustav you are saying that these type of silver scabbard mounts are more recent?
BTW - Love the blades |
28th July 2017, 09:02 AM | #4 |
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Jose, I am referring only to the metal mounts on the first Pedang -
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29th July 2017, 12:51 AM | #5 |
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That's the one Gustav, thank you.
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29th July 2017, 02:09 AM | #6 | |
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I'll try to post some more pics after cleaning and etching... Regards, Kai |
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29th July 2017, 07:30 AM | #7 |
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Love the pommel of "Makara"...great carving and really COOL figure
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29th July 2017, 02:04 AM | #8 | |
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Thanks, Gustav!
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Charles, could you please post close-ups of the scabbard (sword from post #2), please? Regards, Kai |
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29th July 2017, 01:56 AM | #9 | ||
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Hello Detlef,
Thanks for your comments and keeping the ball rolling! Quote:
Note that the pommel size is different; utilizing horn also necessitates some changes at the mouth/etc. due to the hollow core as does functionality as a sword hilt. Swords with these naturalistic makara pommel seem to be exceedingly rare and I've yet to find any well-provenanced examples. Given the differences between mine and Charles' pieces (and more differences compared to northern Malayan badek), I agree that we need to keep an open mind and more data. Quote:
The tassel seems to have some age - I'd guess that the current configuration has been in use for a while (post-WW2?). Regards, Kai |
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