Sword belt hook

Evgeny_K · 3rd November 2016, 02:44 PM

I had recently acquired interesting sword belt hook made of bronze, found not far from Smolensk (Russia). Now I'm trying to date it.
Were such "accessories" widespread in European armies? In what period of time?

Evgeny_K · 7th November 2016, 07:48 AM

any thoughts?

fernando · 7th November 2016, 12:38 PM

Hi Evgeny,
Personally i had never seen such kind of device, nor i am certain how it goes. Is it to introduce the scabbard into that slot and hang the hook on the belt ... in what position ? Sorry for ignorance

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Evgeny_K · 7th November 2016, 02:58 PM

Hi Fernando!
Here are some pics (I'm not sure if it drawn correctly):

Evgeny_K · 7th November 2016, 02:59 PM

This, if I am not mistaken, the Afghan belt with various accessories

Evgeny_K · 7th November 2016, 03:00 PM

Italian (?) circa 1450-1500 (??) hook (picture from the web)

Jim McDougall · 7th November 2016, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by fernando

Hi Evgeny,
Personally i had never seen such kind of device, nor i am certain how it goes. Is it to introduce the scabbard into that slot and hang the hook on the belt ... in what position ? Sorry for ignorance

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I wouldn't equate the term 'ignorance' with you Fernando! and I have to say this unusual item is something I have never seen nor thought of!
It is curious that one of these is notably present but vacant in the great illustration of the individual posted by Eugeny. So what in the world would b placed on these hooks?

Even the assemblage of kit in the next illustration does not reveal what kind of accoutrement would be hung on this as far as I can see.

Great research though Eugeny , in finding that Italian example. Clearly a well established form of item long in use so it will be great to learn more on them. Thank you!

fernando · 7th November 2016, 04:15 PM

Just for the fun ... a fantasy.

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Evgeny_K · 7th November 2016, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fernando

Just for the fun ... a fantasy.
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yep
I suppose that this hook was designed to dismounted horseman could fasten his sword on it

3rd November 2016, 02:44 PM	#1
Evgeny_K Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 206	Sword belt hook I had recently acquired interesting sword belt hook made of bronze, found not far from Smolensk (Russia). Now I'm trying to date it. Were such "accessories" widespread in European armies? In what period of time? Attached Images

7th November 2016, 02:58 PM	#4
Evgeny_K Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 206	Hi Fernando! Here are some pics (I'm not sure if it drawn correctly): Attached Images Last edited by Evgeny_K; 7th November 2016 at 04:04 PM.

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Evgeny_K Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 206	This, if I am not mistaken, the Afghan belt with various accessories Attached Images Last edited by Evgeny_K; 7th November 2016 at 04:06 PM.

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Evgeny_K Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 206	Italian (?) circa 1450-1500 (??) hook (picture from the web) Attached Images Last edited by Evgeny_K; 7th November 2016 at 04:08 PM.

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fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,641	Just for the fun ... a fantasy. . Attached Images

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7th November 2016, 12:38 PM	#3
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,641	Hi Evgeny, Personally i had never seen such kind of device, nor i am certain how it goes. Is it to introduce the scabbard into that slot and hang the hook on the belt ... in what position ? Sorry for ignorance .