pamor for comment

sirek · 29th November 2009, 09:32 PM

Hello everyone, I’m new here and this is my first post in this forum.
I apologize if my English is not always correct , I live in the Netherlands and I have a great interest in the keris.
I was wondering if anybody has seen a pamor like this?, the blade is ful whith copper or brass circles.
I would appreciate any comments or information.
Thanks in advance for any comments

Rick · 29th November 2009, 09:57 PM

Now that's entertainment !

Always something interesting coming out of Madura; that is for sure .

brekele · 30th November 2009, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Always something interesting coming out of Madura; that is for sure .

Agreed!

Many many Pande in Madura (Aeng Tong Tong) or villages arround it making keris. From low quality until high quality. Not just all kind art of keris. I heard that a pande starting making other kind of swords too. For example YATAGHAN with tripple fullers and pamor lar gangsir, complete with arabic words that carved and made of silver

rasjid · 30th November 2009, 08:59 AM

This picture was taken November 2008 when I was in Aeng Tong Tong.

Just to show what they can do, all you need just asked.

BluErf · 30th November 2009, 01:40 PM

Hmmm... reminds me of the movie Dark City...

Well, there's a way to float anyone's boat...

David · 30th November 2009, 02:12 PM

Welcome Sirek. I am not sure that the comments so far have been particularly helpful to you. To be a little more direct, what you have on your keris i would not call pamor in that it is a decorative element that has been added after forging, perhaps to somewhat mimic the effect Udan Mas (golden rain) pamor. This is more akin to kinatah than pamor, the process of adding gold design elements to decorate a blade after forging, but this is not done with gold nor the considerable amount of artistry of good kinatah. As has been pointed out they are trying out some possible directions on contemporary keris from Madura these days.

29th November 2009, 09:32 PM	#1
sirek Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 165	pamor for comment Hello everyone, I’m new here and this is my first post in this forum. I apologize if my English is not always correct , I live in the Netherlands and I have a great interest in the keris. I was wondering if anybody has seen a pamor like this?, the blade is ful whith copper or brass circles. I would appreciate any comments or information. Thanks in advance for any comments Attached Images

30th November 2009, 08:59 AM	#4
rasjid Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Jakarta - Indonesia Posts: 114	Madura Keris This picture was taken November 2008 when I was in Aeng Tong Tong. Just to show what they can do, all you need just asked. Attached Images

29th November 2009, 09:57 PM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,262	Now that's entertainment ! Always something interesting coming out of Madura; that is for sure .

30th November 2009, 01:40 PM	#5
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Hmmm... reminds me of the movie Dark City... Well, there's a way to float anyone's boat...

30th November 2009, 02:12 PM	#6
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,025	Welcome Sirek. I am not sure that the comments so far have been particularly helpful to you. To be a little more direct, what you have on your keris i would not call pamor in that it is a decorative element that has been added after forging, perhaps to somewhat mimic the effect Udan Mas (golden rain) pamor. This is more akin to kinatah than pamor, the process of adding gold design elements to decorate a blade after forging, but this is not done with gold nor the considerable amount of artistry of good kinatah. As has been pointed out they are trying out some possible directions on contemporary keris from Madura these days.