A vinegar bug in my head!!!!

Flavio · 24th June 2006, 07:35 PM

Since my first etching shows me a nice surprise on the dha in one other thread, i have decided to etch also this penai. Now the question is: i will be able to stop me, or i will etch also the butter knife?

Who knows, maybe is made of wootz!!!!!

Rick · 24th June 2006, 07:49 PM

Nice Flavio , very nice .

But ...........

Put-the-vinegar-down-and-back-away-from-the-silverware-slowly ......

Flavio · 24th June 2006, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

Nice Flavio , very nice .

But ...........

Put-the-vinegar-down-and-back-away-from-the-silverware-slowly ......

No...No, it's not silver...it's wootz, it's wootz .....

ariel · 24th June 2006, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flavio

No...No, it's not silver...it's wootz, it's wootz .....

Flavio,
Is it your Mom's silverware?
After all she did for you?

Rick · 24th June 2006, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flavio

No...No, it's not silver...it's wootz, it's wootz .....

Uhm hum ,

Flavio · 24th June 2006, 10:47 PM

Flavio · 24th June 2006, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel

Flavio,
Is it your Mom's silverware?
After all she did for you?

Noooooooo, she's made of wootz

Rick · 24th June 2006, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flavio

Noooooooo, she's made of wootz

Noooooo , not your Mom !!!
Somebody call the S.W.A.T. team we've got a forum member over the edge !

Ferguson · 25th June 2006, 01:45 AM

Flavio, I understand completely.

The thrill one gets from watching the steel bare it's soul is exceptional!

Steve

Andrew · 25th June 2006, 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

Uhm hum ,

rotflmao!

I post on the board where that very picture was photochopped into existence, Rick! Amazing how things travel around the web.

Flavio · 25th June 2006, 10:05 AM

Thank you very much for your sensibility Steve (maybe they will lock up us in the same unit of mental health!!!!

), but to return seroius for a wile (it's hard, it's very hard!!!) no one have never try to etch an african blade? The african blades aren't laminated, but maybe there are some differences in the hardness of the edge.

Lew · 25th June 2006, 11:36 AM

No one have never try to etch an african blade? The african blades aren't laminated, but maybe there are some differences in the hardness of the edge.[/QUOTE]

Flavio

I have seen African blades that seem to be laminated but I think these blades were forged from wrought iron so they look like folded steel blades.

Lew

Flavio · 25th June 2006, 02:06 PM

Lew,

you are right i also see many african blades with some folds due to the shape of the blade. Do you think that i can try on one of my weapons or is an hazard? maybe on a blade that is clearly functional i can find some surprise!

Lew · 25th June 2006, 02:52 PM

Flavio

A vinegar etch should not harm an African blade but you should try doing it to a small area say the tip of the blade to see what happens. Usually an old Congo blade that looks forged may be a good start.

Lew

katana · 25th June 2006, 06:23 PM

Would someone please explain the best way to vinegar etch a blade? Is a lemon Juice etch... a milder etch? (the Kris boys mention it occationally) Or stronger?

Rick · 25th June 2006, 06:51 PM

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=2641

It may be just me but I recall Lemon bringing out a browner tone than Lime .

Flavio · 25th June 2006, 06:57 PM

Oooppsssss, i did it again, i play with your heart.....No, no stop!!!!!!

Here is another example: a salawar. Unfortunatly the very edge is quite pitted but anyway the result is nice

. I decide to stop also about african blade: I have rethought to the many pictures of the beginning of last century that shows many warriors of Central Africa with theirs shining swords and so i have decided to leave my african pieces as they are.

Katana, i think that the etching with vinegar is a gentle way, especially if you use the vinegar diluted with water (proportion 1 liter of vinegar : 2 of water) and cold (the process is faster if you heat the water).

katana · 25th June 2006, 07:07 PM

Thankyou Rick and Flavio, nice piece..

BSMStar · 27th June 2006, 01:13 PM

I have to caution you Flavio, that putting vinegar on everything is how I got addicted to fish and chip… and pickles.

Rick · 27th June 2006, 02:22 PM

That Khyber looks like monosteel with a hardened edge .

Here's a really topographic etch on my example (no I didn't do it) it came this way . Maybe mine looked like yours before it was so heavily etched .

Flavio · 27th June 2006, 03:55 PM

Hello Rick. No i think that you're right: mine is monosteel with hardened edge.

VANDOO · 27th June 2006, 04:28 PM

VINEGAR PHEWWWIE!!

VERY STINKIE , I PREFER LIME OR LEMON IT SMELLS SO MUCH BETTER, AND YOUR MOM MIGHT NOT MIND IT SO MUCH

24th June 2006, 07:35 PM	#1
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	A vinegar bug in my head!!!! Since my first etching shows me a nice surprise on the dha in one other thread, i have decided to etch also this penai. Now the question is: i will be able to stop me, or i will etch also the butter knife? Who knows, maybe is made of wootz!!!!! Attached Images

24th June 2006, 07:49 PM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,262	Nice Pattern Nice Flavio , very nice . But ........... Put-the-vinegar-down-and-back-away-from-the-silverware-slowly ......

25th June 2006, 06:51 PM	#16
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,262	Last Post In This Thread http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=2641 It may be just me but I recall Lemon bringing out a browner tone than Lime .

25th June 2006, 06:57 PM	#17
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Oooppsssss, i did it again, i play with your heart.....No, no stop!!!!!! Here is another example: a salawar. Unfortunatly the very edge is quite pitted but anyway the result is nice . I decide to stop also about african blade: I have rethought to the many pictures of the beginning of last century that shows many warriors of Central Africa with theirs shining swords and so i have decided to leave my african pieces as they are. Katana, i think that the etching with vinegar is a gentle way, especially if you use the vinegar diluted with water (proportion 1 liter of vinegar : 2 of water) and cold (the process is faster if you heat the water). Attached Images

27th June 2006, 02:22 PM	#20
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,262	That Khyber looks like monosteel with a hardened edge . Here's a really topographic etch on my example (no I didn't do it) it came this way . Maybe mine looked like yours before it was so heavily etched . Attached Images

24th June 2006, 10:47 PM	#6
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243

25th June 2006, 01:45 AM	#9
Ferguson Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kernersville, NC, USA Posts: 793	Flavio, I understand completely. The thrill one gets from watching the steel bare it's soul is exceptional! Steve

25th June 2006, 10:05 AM	#11
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Thank you very much for your sensibility Steve (maybe they will lock up us in the same unit of mental health!!!! ), but to return seroius for a wile (it's hard, it's very hard!!!) no one have never try to etch an african blade? The african blades aren't laminated, but maybe there are some differences in the hardness of the edge.

25th June 2006, 11:36 AM	#12
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	No one have never try to etch an african blade? The african blades aren't laminated, but maybe there are some differences in the hardness of the edge.[/QUOTE] Flavio I have seen African blades that seem to be laminated but I think these blades were forged from wrought iron so they look like folded steel blades. Lew

25th June 2006, 02:06 PM	#13
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Lew, you are right i also see many african blades with some folds due to the shape of the blade. Do you think that i can try on one of my weapons or is an hazard? maybe on a blade that is clearly functional i can find some surprise!

25th June 2006, 02:52 PM	#14
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Flavio A vinegar etch should not harm an African blade but you should try doing it to a small area say the tip of the blade to see what happens. Usually an old Congo blade that looks forged may be a good start. Lew

25th June 2006, 06:23 PM	#15
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,653	Would someone please explain the best way to vinegar etch a blade? Is a lemon Juice etch... a milder etch? (the Kris boys mention it occationally) Or stronger?

25th June 2006, 07:07 PM	#18
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,653	Thankyou Rick and Flavio, nice piece..

27th June 2006, 01:13 PM	#19
BSMStar Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kansas City, MO USA Posts: 312	I have to caution you Flavio, that putting vinegar on everything is how I got addicted to fish and chip… and pickles.

27th June 2006, 03:55 PM	#21
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Hello Rick. No i think that you're right: mine is monosteel with hardened edge.

27th June 2006, 04:28 PM	#22
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	VINEGAR PHEWWWIE!! VERY STINKIE , I PREFER LIME OR LEMON IT SMELLS SO MUCH BETTER, AND YOUR MOM MIGHT NOT MIND IT SO MUCH