Kampilan

pinoy · 22nd January 2006, 02:25 PM

Just wanna show this kampilan. Item measures 39in. overall.

pinoy · 22nd January 2006, 04:25 PM

BTW its an ivory kampilan.

Spunjer · 22nd January 2006, 04:29 PM

nice! can you provide closeups on the blade??

Lew · 22nd January 2006, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by pinoy

BTW its an ivory kampilan.

Hi Pinoy

Are you sure that it is ivory? It may be whale bone? The grain structure does not look like ivory to me. Is there another type of marine animal that this ivory could have come from?

Lew

nechesh · 22nd January 2006, 04:51 PM

My thoughts exactly Lew. It looks more like bone to me. Still quite nice though. I would also like to see close-ups of the blade as well as the tip if you don't mind.

Battara · 22nd January 2006, 07:33 PM

I'm in agreement. I've seen whalebone kampilans and this looks whalebone to me also. Also looks like baided silver bands as well.

pinoy · 23rd January 2006, 03:08 AM

Nope. Maybe your just used to seeing newer types of ivory kampilan. This is an early 1900's example. This ivory is similar to the examples shown on the museums in Spain.

Rick · 23rd January 2006, 03:46 AM

Not like any ivory I've ever seen . <shrug>

I own a couple of 19th C. examples of ivory .
I'd like to see some close ups of the end grain on the crossguard and hilt .

Andrew · 23rd January 2006, 03:56 AM

Another vote for bone, here.

Regardless, that's a beautiful sword, pinoy. Thanks for sharing it with us!

Got any pix of the tip?

Ian · 23rd January 2006, 04:27 AM

Cato shows two excellent examples on p. 51 of his book Moro Swords (Figures 31,32), one bone-hilted and the other a superb ivory-hilted example that resides in the National Museum of the Philippines. Those two examples and the one above are typical of Maranao work from the Lake Lanao region.

The hilt of Pinoy's example shows a grain most unlike elephant or marine ivory, but is consistent with bone. Whale bone is a good possibility.

Ian.

Spunjer · 23rd January 2006, 05:23 AM

ivory kampilan

http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/002668.html

pinoy · 23rd January 2006, 06:15 AM

well thanks for the info guys, nice pics on the link spunjer. BTW who owns that ivory kampilan?

MABAGANI · 23rd January 2006, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Spunjer

http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/002668.html

Greetings Pinoy, the kampilan in the post is bone, too, I've handled it, not that ivory is better, I prefer the dense polished bone type, doesn't feel as delicate as ivory. Can we see the blade tip? btw Pacquio!lolz

Spunjer · 23rd January 2006, 07:37 PM

my bad! thanks for the correction, mabagani!!!

yup. PACMAN rulez!

22nd January 2006, 02:25 PM	#1
pinoy Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 14	Kampilan Just wanna show this kampilan. Item measures 39in. overall. Attached Images

22nd January 2006, 04:25 PM	#2
pinoy Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 14	BTW its an ivory kampilan.

22nd January 2006, 04:29 PM	#3
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	nice! can you provide closeups on the blade??

22nd January 2006, 04:51 PM	#5
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	My thoughts exactly Lew. It looks more like bone to me. Still quite nice though. I would also like to see close-ups of the blade as well as the tip if you don't mind.

22nd January 2006, 07:33 PM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,139	I'm in agreement. I've seen whalebone kampilans and this looks whalebone to me also. Also looks like baided silver bands as well.

23rd January 2006, 03:08 AM	#7
pinoy Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 14	Nope. Maybe your just used to seeing newer types of ivory kampilan. This is an early 1900's example. This ivory is similar to the examples shown on the museums in Spain.

23rd January 2006, 03:46 AM	#8
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,262	Not like any ivory I've ever seen . <shrug> I own a couple of 19th C. examples of ivory . I'd like to see some close ups of the end grain on the crossguard and hilt .

23rd January 2006, 03:56 AM	#9
Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	Another vote for bone, here. Regardless, that's a beautiful sword, pinoy. Thanks for sharing it with us! Got any pix of the tip?

23rd January 2006, 04:27 AM	#10
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,031	Cato shows two excellent examples on p. 51 of his book Moro Swords (Figures 31,32), one bone-hilted and the other a superb ivory-hilted example that resides in the National Museum of the Philippines. Those two examples and the one above are typical of Maranao work from the Lake Lanao region. The hilt of Pinoy's example shows a grain most unlike elephant or marine ivory, but is consistent with bone. Whale bone is a good possibility. Ian.

23rd January 2006, 05:23 AM	#11
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	ivory kampilan http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/002668.html

23rd January 2006, 06:15 AM	#12
pinoy Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 14	well thanks for the info guys, nice pics on the link spunjer. BTW who owns that ivory kampilan?

23rd January 2006, 07:37 PM	#14
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	my bad! thanks for the correction, mabagani!!! yup. PACMAN rulez!