from where...?

gp · 14th June 2022, 09:10 PM

This carte de visite / CdV is from around 1860 - 1880
and originates from the Ottoman Empire.

unfortunately the name of the photographer and city where it was taken is neither printed on the front nor backside...

Does anyone on the forum knows where this might come from ? Country, people or group?
Do you recognize the weapons ?

Thnx

ariel · 14th June 2022, 09:57 PM

Zeibek. Western Anatolia, mostly around Smirna/Izmir.
Google Zeibek yataghan or search for it on the Forum. The “ears” are specific.

gp · 14th June 2022, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel

Zeibek. Western Anatolia, mostly around Smirna/Izmir.
Google Zeibek yataghan or search for it on the Forum. The “ears” are specific.

much obliged, most highly appreciated !

Not only the yataghan but also the high" fez like hat with the long "tail" is clearly to be seen:

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=17790

ariel · 14th June 2022, 11:21 PM

… as well as shorts and leggings…:-)

Rick · 14th June 2022, 11:48 PM

What is contained in the striped bag hanging from his belt? I have seen this before worn by other armed men from this area.

ariel · 15th June 2022, 04:29 AM

A bottle of Raki?:-)

Edster · 15th June 2022, 01:15 PM

Asphidity bag for medicines or eating?

Rick · 15th June 2022, 06:39 PM

I understand that's pretty stinky stuff.
That's a lot of Asafetida for one man to carry around, Ed.

Edster · 15th June 2022, 07:30 PM

Rick,

Since this isn't a one-off item, but as you say ethnically common, it must have some cultural significance and not likely a bag to carry extra socks. What could/would be carried to produce that shape? First aid, natural roots & leaves for medicines, personal items, magic items? We need to dive deeper into their culture.

Best,
Ed

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gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 658	from where...? This carte de visite / CdV is from around 1860 - 1880 and originates from the Ottoman Empire. unfortunately the name of the photographer and city where it was taken is neither printed on the front nor backside... Does anyone on the forum knows where this might come from ? Country, people or group? Do you recognize the weapons ? Thnx Attached Images Last edited by gp; 14th June 2022 at 09:57 PM.

15th June 2022, 06:39 PM	#8
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,262	Tongue in cheek ? I understand that's pretty stinky stuff. That's a lot of Asafetida for one man to carry around, Ed.

14th June 2022, 09:57 PM	#2
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Zeibek. Western Anatolia, mostly around Smirna/Izmir. Google Zeibek yataghan or search for it on the Forum. The “ears” are specific.

14th June 2022, 11:21 PM	#4
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	… as well as shorts and leggings…:-)

14th June 2022, 11:48 PM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,262	What is contained in the striped bag hanging from his belt? I have seen this before worn by other armed men from this area.

15th June 2022, 04:29 AM	#6
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	A bottle of Raki?:-)

15th June 2022, 01:15 PM	#7
Edster Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 391	Asphidity bag for medicines or eating?

15th June 2022, 07:30 PM	#9
Edster Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 391	Rick, Since this isn't a one-off item, but as you say ethnically common, it must have some cultural significance and not likely a bag to carry extra socks. What could/would be carried to produce that shape? First aid, natural roots & leaves for medicines, personal items, magic items? We need to dive deeper into their culture. Best, Ed