Original rapiers?

erlikhan · 12th April 2007, 09:53 PM

hello.I hope all members have been very well and happy since the last time i had chance to log into the forum,which has been quiet long time.

May I please learn your opinion about the attached pictures? Could any of these rapiers have possibility to be original 300-400 years old or so?(The first picture especially)
According to me impossible because i cant feel even a least degree of material aging expected to occur on almost half a thousand years aged swords even if they have been kept very carefully since the day of their production. But a good internet buyer of me insists they are original, and requests me to find rapiers like them for him.

regards

David · 12th April 2007, 10:15 PM

I know very, very little about rapiers, but even i can see that these are obvious modern repros. Your good buyer friend has had someone pull the woll over his eyes, me thinks.

fernando · 12th April 2007, 10:26 PM

This is not real.You just have to look at the logo in the back of the pictures. A known site for sword reproductions

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erlikhan · 12th April 2007, 11:00 PM

Yes although I dont know that brand or website whatever, they are obviously new reproductions. I hoped a very little possibility just in the 1st picture only because he says he is about to buy that one!! and doesnt like some real antique rapiers which I offer him, because of their 'poor' condition

. Perhaps as the last hope I will try to convince him showing this thread so that he will keep his money and buy some more stuff from me instead

fernando · 12th April 2007, 11:11 PM

Here
http://www.by-the-sword.com/
You can see the same logo at the top left of the page.

erlikhan · 12th April 2007, 11:28 PM

lol thank you. I hope him to be very grateful to me. or perhaps he will hate me because he is so proud with his 16-17th century rapier collection

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Marc · 13th April 2007, 10:45 AM

And the first one is a Darkwood Armory "ringhilt" rapier. They make modern repro, of course. Their products are rather good, if one obviates some weight issues in a few of their models.

The one shown here is Catalog Number AVBN #58. Go HERE for Darkwood's general catalog and HERE for what they call the "ringhilt" rapiers.

No way one is going to find an original rapier at these prices, I'm afraid.

12th April 2007, 09:53 PM	#1
erlikhan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Istanbul Posts: 452	Original rapiers? hello.I hope all members have been very well and happy since the last time i had chance to log into the forum,which has been quiet long time. May I please learn your opinion about the attached pictures? Could any of these rapiers have possibility to be original 300-400 years old or so?(The first picture especially) According to me impossible because i cant feel even a least degree of material aging expected to occur on almost half a thousand years aged swords even if they have been kept very carefully since the day of their production. But a good internet buyer of me insists they are original, and requests me to find rapiers like them for him. regards Attached Images Last edited by erlikhan; 12th April 2007 at 11:35 PM.

12th April 2007, 10:15 PM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,023	I know very, very little about rapiers, but even i can see that these are obvious modern repros. Your good buyer friend has had someone pull the woll over his eyes, me thinks.

12th April 2007, 10:26 PM	#3
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,638	This is not real.You just have to look at the logo in the back of the pictures. A known site for sword reproductions .

12th April 2007, 11:00 PM	#4
erlikhan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Istanbul Posts: 452	Yes although I dont know that brand or website whatever, they are obviously new reproductions. I hoped a very little possibility just in the 1st picture only because he says he is about to buy that one!! and doesnt like some real antique rapiers which I offer him, because of their 'poor' condition . Perhaps as the last hope I will try to convince him showing this thread so that he will keep his money and buy some more stuff from me instead

12th April 2007, 11:11 PM	#5
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,638	Here http://www.by-the-sword.com/ You can see the same logo at the top left of the page.

12th April 2007, 11:28 PM	#6
erlikhan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Istanbul Posts: 452	lol thank you. I hope him to be very grateful to me. or perhaps he will hate me because he is so proud with his 16-17th century rapier collection .

13th April 2007, 10:45 AM	#7
Marc Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Madrid / Barcelona Posts: 256	And the first one is a Darkwood Armory "ringhilt" rapier. They make modern repro, of course. Their products are rather good, if one obviates some weight issues in a few of their models. The one shown here is Catalog Number AVBN #58. Go HERE for Darkwood's general catalog and HERE for what they call the "ringhilt" rapiers. No way one is going to find an original rapier at these prices, I'm afraid.