Any idea where it is from?

Ann Feuerbach · 7th November 2006, 05:08 PM

Hi all, a cheap buy last weekend. Any clues to where it may be from. All leads welcome!

Ann Feuerbach · 7th November 2006, 05:11 PM

Grip. Sorry about the large size of the other picture.

Rivkin · 7th November 2006, 05:33 PM

The date is something like 123*, which translates into 182*. This seems to be an imitation of european military swords (?). The text in the first plate is rotated 90 degrees counterclockwise from its true direction.

Concerning the provenance - I think this is not Ottoman, XIXth century borders. My guess is as good as any, but I would wait for more knowledgeble people to take on this thread.

S.Al-Anizi · 7th November 2006, 05:56 PM

Hi,

that cartouche says Shah Abbas. Is this a wootz blade? The blade is certainly Persian. I think the date reads 1231.

Rivkin · 7th November 2006, 06:01 PM

Bravo Anizi, I think we have Qajar military sword. Only I don't know, I feel something northern indian in this one, or am I seeing things.
Well, not my area of expertise.

Ann Feuerbach · 7th November 2006, 06:46 PM

Thanks for the info. Not even having the inscription the right way around is just evidence that I have no language knowledge. Shah Abbas, cool. I have only cleaned a small area and it did not show any pattern with either Tannic acid and wostershire sauce, I must get some Nital (shame on me to be out of it).
It is a funny piece. Really worn down brass guard, horrible scabbard, also with worn fittings. But the blade seems quite nice under all the stuff on the surface. Thanks again Rivkin and S.Al-Anizi.

S.Al-Anizi · 7th November 2006, 08:39 PM

It looks like a nice sword Ann, may we (not to sound selfish!

) get a pic of the entire sword. I bet you that the blade is wootz.

Ann Feuerbach · 8th November 2006, 03:53 PM

I will post a pic of the whole blade as soon as I get a chance to take the picture.

7th November 2006, 05:08 PM	#1
Ann Feuerbach Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 133	Any idea where it is from? Hi all, a cheap buy last weekend. Any clues to where it may be from. All leads welcome! Attached Images

7th November 2006, 05:11 PM	#2
Ann Feuerbach Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 133	Grip. Sorry about the large size of the other picture. Attached Images

7th November 2006, 05:33 PM	#3
Rivkin Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 655	The date is something like 123, which translates into 182. This seems to be an imitation of european military swords (?). The text in the first plate is rotated 90 degrees counterclockwise from its true direction. Concerning the provenance - I think this is not Ottoman, XIXth century borders. My guess is as good as any, but I would wait for more knowledgeble people to take on this thread.

7th November 2006, 05:56 PM	#4
S.Al-Anizi Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Arabia Posts: 278	Hi, that cartouche says Shah Abbas. Is this a wootz blade? The blade is certainly Persian. I think the date reads 1231.

7th November 2006, 06:01 PM	#5
Rivkin Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 655	Bravo Anizi, I think we have Qajar military sword. Only I don't know, I feel something northern indian in this one, or am I seeing things. Well, not my area of expertise.

7th November 2006, 06:46 PM	#6
Ann Feuerbach Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 133	Thanks for the info. Not even having the inscription the right way around is just evidence that I have no language knowledge. Shah Abbas, cool. I have only cleaned a small area and it did not show any pattern with either Tannic acid and wostershire sauce, I must get some Nital (shame on me to be out of it). It is a funny piece. Really worn down brass guard, horrible scabbard, also with worn fittings. But the blade seems quite nice under all the stuff on the surface. Thanks again Rivkin and S.Al-Anizi.

7th November 2006, 08:39 PM	#7
S.Al-Anizi Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Arabia Posts: 278	It looks like a nice sword Ann, may we (not to sound selfish! ) get a pic of the entire sword. I bet you that the blade is wootz.

8th November 2006, 03:53 PM	#8
Ann Feuerbach Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 133	I will post a pic of the whole blade as soon as I get a chance to take the picture.