Iron Khanjar

Saracen · 16th November 2016, 08:33 PM

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Too late for wootz

Battara · 16th November 2016, 11:02 PM

Thoughts on the blade:

1. Could the blade not be wootz but laminated instead?

2. Could the blade be older woozy and later repurposed?

Some possibilities I see for this blade being in Qajar mounts.

Other thoughts?

Saracen · 16th November 2016, 11:15 PM

Грубоватые долы, крупное травление и последующая гравировка на клинке (соответствующая гравировке на рукояти и ножнах) - все за позднее изготовление клинка.

Rude valleys, large etching and subsequent engraving on the blade (corresponding to the engraving on the hilt and scabbard) - all for the later production of the blade.

mariusgmioc · 17th November 2016, 06:39 AM

Yet, I have seen quite a few Qajar Khanjars with wootz blades. So, if it will be the case, this one won't definitely be an exception.

I guess that most of them were refurbished older blades.

Oliver Pinchot · 17th November 2016, 07:07 AM

Wootz blades were produced in Iran into the 20th century.
Nasr al-Din Shah (r. 1848-1896) was responsible for a neoclassical movement in Iran, designed to counter European influence and stimulate the economy. Swordsmithing was revived and some very good wootz blades were forged. A number of the better examples bear his name.

Saracen · 17th November 2016, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver Pinchot

Wootz blades were produced in Iran into the 20th century.
Nasr al-Din Shah (r. 1848-1896) was responsible for a neoclassical movement in Iran, designed to counter European influence and stimulate the economy. Swordsmithing was revived and some very good wootz blades were forged. A number of the better examples bear his name.

Спасибо за эту информацию

Thank you for this information

16th November 2016, 11:15 PM	#3
Saracen Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 147	Грубоватые долы, крупное травление и последующая гравировка на клинке (соответствующая гравировке на рукояти и ножнах) - все за позднее изготовление клинка. Rude valleys, large etching and subsequent engraving on the blade (corresponding to the engraving on the hilt and scabbard) - all for the later production of the blade. Last edited by Saracen; 17th November 2016 at 12:33 PM.

16th November 2016, 08:33 PM	#1
Saracen Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 147	Слишком поздно для булата Too late for wootz

16th November 2016, 11:02 PM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,303	Thoughts on the blade: 1. Could the blade not be wootz but laminated instead? 2. Could the blade be older woozy and later repurposed? Some possibilities I see for this blade being in Qajar mounts. Other thoughts?

17th November 2016, 06:39 AM	#4
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,911	Yet, I have seen quite a few Qajar Khanjars with wootz blades. So, if it will be the case, this one won't definitely be an exception. I guess that most of them were refurbished older blades.

17th November 2016, 07:07 AM	#5
Oliver Pinchot Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 467	Wootz blades were produced in Iran into the 20th century. Nasr al-Din Shah (r. 1848-1896) was responsible for a neoclassical movement in Iran, designed to counter European influence and stimulate the economy. Swordsmithing was revived and some very good wootz blades were forged. A number of the better examples bear his name.