Jambiya plastic

[ericlaude]

I found in a lot of weapons that I bought, which I think this Jambiya old, but its handle is plastic, it is a gadget for tourist.
Someone can tell me more?
Thank you in advance

[Atlantia]

Wow, that's one unusual Khanjar!
Loving the blade! Have you tested for wootz?
Are you sure the hilt isn't just painted with some kind of bichumen?
Best
gene

[Stan S.]

Could it be old bikalite (form of early plastic) that was slightly corroded by something? The dagger looks genuinely old to me...

[ericlaude]

I can't see if it's a woots, I think no, the material of the handle can be an old used Kaketit.

[Atlantia]

Originally Posted by ericlaude

I can't see if it's a woots, I think no, the material of the handle can be an old used Kaketit.

Whats a Kaketit?

It's a lovely thing. I've never seen a Khanjar with a blade like that!

Where's Stu!

[Sajen]

I think that both, Stan and Eric as well think/speak about bakelite, an early form of plastic used in the beginning of the last century. Good possible that the handle is from this material. I don't know something about this daggers/ khanjar but all parts look genuine to my eyes and the blade is beautiful. I would bet that it is not a tourist item!!

Regards,

Detlef

[kahnjar1]

Originally Posted by Atlantia

Whats a Kaketit?

It's a lovely thing. I've never seen a Khanjar with a blade like that!

Where's Stu!

Here I am Don't forget we are 12 hours out with you people up north!
Definately NOT tourist IMHO. The scabbard looks Omani judging but the nice scroll work. Also there is gold thread there among the silver. Hilt could be plastic of some sort, or bakelite, or horn with some overfinish. No doubt Ibrahiim will have an opinion on this. Not modern (not 21st century junk)
very interesting blade. I have a Dharia with a multi fullered blade (pic attached)
Regards Stu

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Originally Posted by ericlaude

I found in a lot of weapons that I bought, which I think this Jambiya old, but its handle is plastic, it is a gadget for tourist.
Someone can tell me more?
Thank you in advance

Salaams ericlaude ~

Thankyou for the excellent pictures of The Omani Khanjar..

1. The hilt could be a bakelite or plastic variant which looks like it has been burned or covered in pitch/perhaps the material that welds the blade in place... A resin.

2. The item looks original and is unusual for a few reasons notably;

a. The vertical grooves in the hilt above the cuff number 33. Reflected in the same number of verticals above the belt section (IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII) The 33 names of God in the short form. The number of prayer beads in a normal short string (the long form is 99)
b. The 3 ridge blade taking after the 3 ridge or 3 fuller sword blade called abu thalath musayil.. ? The one with the three...As for watered steel; Omani Khanjars don't have wootz blades....Not Omani Style.
c. The peculiar geometry on the scabbard reflected in the toe (Quba) may indicate an out of Oman Khanjar style possibly UAE.

This Omani made Khanjar poses a number of question and could be from the Shimaliyya (northern region) or the Sharqiyya(eastern region) or in fact made in Oman for the UAE market. Certainly it is not a tourist job.

I need to tout this question around a while before we can be sure.

Meanwhile please see The Omani Khanjar which is a growing resource on this specialised weapon. The Omani Khanjar

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

[ericlaude]

Thank you to all for your rich information, now its khanjar will go on my website.
One more time thank you.

[Lew]

Originally Posted by ericlaude

Thank you to all for your rich information, now its khanjar will go on my website.
One more time thank you.

Ericlaude

I hope you place it as a point of interest and not for sale?

Lew

[Lew]

Ericlaude

I checked your website and see that said khanjar is marked sold! It seems you only posted this piece to generate interest for the purpose of selling it on your website which is frowned upon here on the forum. So you have earned yourself a ten day ban. Let this be a warning to anyone who wants to play these types of games!

[kahnjar1]

Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi

Salaams ericlaude ~

Thankyou for the excellent pictures of The Omani Khanjar..

1. The hilt could be a bakelite or plastic variant which looks like it has been burned or covered in pitch/perhaps the material that welds the blade in place... A resin.

2. The item looks original and is unusual for a few reasons notably;

a. The vertical grooves in the hilt above the cuff number 33. Reflected in the same number of verticals above the belt section (IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII) The 33 names of God in the short form. The number of prayer beads in a normal short string (the long form is 99)
b. The 3 ridge blade taking after the 3 ridge or 3 fuller sword blade called abu thalath musayil.. ? The one with the three...As for watered steel; Omani Khanjars don't have wootz blades....Not Omani Style.
c. The peculiar geometry on the scabbard reflected in the toe (Quba) may indicate an out of Oman Khanjar style possibly UAE.

This Omani made Khanjar poses a number of question and could be from the Shimaliyya (northern region) or the Sharqiyya(eastern region) or in fact made in Oman for the UAE market. Certainly it is not a tourist job.

I need to tout this question around a while before we can be sure.

Meanwhile please see The Omani Khanjar which is a growing resource on this specialised weapon. The Omani Khanjar

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

I have resurrected this thread as it would appear that the origin of this piece has not yet been decided.
Any further thoughts?
Regards Stu

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Originally Posted by kahnjar1

I have resurrected this thread as it would appear that the origin of this piece has not yet been decided.
Any further thoughts?
Regards Stu

Salaams kahnjar1 ~ My view is that this is an Omani made Khanjar for the UAE market after which another blade has been placed possibly Indian... and the hilt has been burned in a fire or coated in a sort of burned grease effect... It would benefit from a replacement hilt and a straightening of the blade which perhaps is also loose and appears to have slipped into the hilt too far. Other upgrades would include a decent UAE belt and work knife etc after which the whole thing polished up would be pretty decent I would have thought.
Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

[kahnjar1]

Thanks for your comment Ibrahiim. So we definately have an Omani Khanjar.
I believe that Yemeni makers have had access to blade making machinery, and that blades of this sort were occasionly found on their work. So the possibility exists that this blade originated there.
As to putting new bits unnecessarily on older pieces, I think you by now must know my feeling about this. Great idea if thats what you deal in, but again it's creating something which is NOT original.
Regards Stu

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Originally Posted by kahnjar1

Thanks for your comment Ibrahiim. So we definately have an Omani Khanjar.
I believe that Yemeni makers have had access to blade making machinery, and that blades of this sort were occasionly found on their work. So the possibility exists that this blade originated there.
As to putting new bits unnecessarily on older pieces, I think you by now must know my feeling about this. Great idea if thats what you deal in, but again it's creating something which is NOT original.
Regards Stu

Made in Oman for sure. For the UAE market / client. Could be an Indian or Yemeni replacement blade.
On replacement parts ~ By nature the Omani Khanjar is a multiple set of parts very often with replaced blades and occasionally hilts. Belts and add ons get replaced all the time. Upgrading Khanjars is what Omani men do all the time... Its part and parcel of the Khanjar situation and is normal proceedure. ... All Khanjar dealers in Oman have access to the vast range of spare parts we need to carry and most either have their own workshops like us or blister onto a local one for minor repairs and upgrades. It seems peculiar to the Khanjar, since, how many ethnographic daggers are there around with upwards of 10 separate parts?
Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.