Divided Blade Dagger

Iliad · 2nd November 2014, 03:23 AM

Greetings All,

Here are pics of a recent purchase. My stock of reference books is small and I am unable to identify the dagger. Looks Indo-Persian to me. It seems to my inexpert eye that dividing the blade into two makes the dagger less efficient than if it was in the usual single blade form.
Can anyone help with identification?
Brian

kahnjar1 · 2nd November 2014, 04:11 AM

Hi Brian,
My two cents worth suggests it is of relatively recent Indian manufacture, but in the scabbard it LOOKS like a Kurdish dagger, which I suspect it is not.
Stu

Gavin Nugent · 2nd November 2014, 05:02 AM

I feel it is an early to mid 20th century Syrian tourist or bazaar item.

VANDOO · 2nd November 2014, 05:31 AM

I HAVE WATCHED THEM MAKE DAGGERS AND VASES SIMILAR TO THIS ONE IN MOROCCO AS WELL. A FINE PATTERN IS CUT IN THE METAL AND THEN FINE SILVER WIRE FORCED INTO THE DEEP GROOVES. ITS A PRIMITIVE TECHNIQUE THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE COMPLICATED TOOLS JUST SKILLED GROUPS OF PEOPLE SO IT IS LIKELY THIS SORT OF WORK IS DONE IN SEVERAL TOWNS AS WELL AS COUNTRY'S. THE WORKERS MAKING THEM COULD NO DOUBT POINT OUT DIFFERENCES AND PIN DOWN ITS ORIGIN BUT I CAN'T. MOST THEY MADE IN MOROCCO WERE SMALL DAGGERS FOR TOURISTS BUT THEY SAID THEY WERE FOR WOMEN TO CARRY FOR PROTECTION ALSO.

Kubur · 2nd November 2014, 08:17 AM

Syrian 20th

junker · 2nd November 2014, 07:28 PM

Hi,
the double blade is a following of the sword zulfikar, which was the double bladed sword of mohamed. You can find more pictures under this name in the internet.
Dirk

ALEX · 3rd November 2014, 08:52 AM

as already noted, this is 20th century syrian tourist/souvenir dagger. it is not silver inlaid, it is overlay i.e. coftgari technique, which was/is made in Syria as well.

2nd November 2014, 03:23 AM	#1
Iliad Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 187	Divided Blade Dagger Greetings All, Here are pics of a recent purchase. My stock of reference books is small and I am unable to identify the dagger. Looks Indo-Persian to me. It seems to my inexpert eye that dividing the blade into two makes the dagger less efficient than if it was in the usual single blade form. Can anyone help with identification? Brian Attached Images

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2nd November 2014, 04:11 AM	#2
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,728	Hi Brian, My two cents worth suggests it is of relatively recent Indian manufacture, but in the scabbard it LOOKS like a Kurdish dagger, which I suspect it is not. Stu

2nd November 2014, 05:02 AM	#3
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	I feel it is an early to mid 20th century Syrian tourist or bazaar item.

2nd November 2014, 05:31 AM	#4
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	I HAVE WATCHED THEM MAKE DAGGERS AND VASES SIMILAR TO THIS ONE IN MOROCCO AS WELL. A FINE PATTERN IS CUT IN THE METAL AND THEN FINE SILVER WIRE FORCED INTO THE DEEP GROOVES. ITS A PRIMITIVE TECHNIQUE THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE COMPLICATED TOOLS JUST SKILLED GROUPS OF PEOPLE SO IT IS LIKELY THIS SORT OF WORK IS DONE IN SEVERAL TOWNS AS WELL AS COUNTRY'S. THE WORKERS MAKING THEM COULD NO DOUBT POINT OUT DIFFERENCES AND PIN DOWN ITS ORIGIN BUT I CAN'T. MOST THEY MADE IN MOROCCO WERE SMALL DAGGERS FOR TOURISTS BUT THEY SAID THEY WERE FOR WOMEN TO CARRY FOR PROTECTION ALSO.

2nd November 2014, 08:17 AM	#5
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Syrian 20th

2nd November 2014, 07:28 PM	#6
junker Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 140	Hi, the double blade is a following of the sword zulfikar, which was the double bladed sword of mohamed. You can find more pictures under this name in the internet. Dirk

3rd November 2014, 08:52 AM	#7
ALEX Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 935	as already noted, this is 20th century syrian tourist/souvenir dagger. it is not silver inlaid, it is overlay i.e. coftgari technique, which was/is made in Syria as well.