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Old 5th September 2009, 05:04 PM   #1
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Default Small club ? Throwing stick ? Chief's Regalia ?

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interesting small club ....hard and heavy for its size. Attached a label ....Rhodesia seems about right... judging by the wood. Wire work, typical for the area, is 'coated' (paint ?) copper.
Curious tapered hole in the handle....either a pommel / butt piece was attached there ....or perhaps a staff ?.

I appreciate that the label could be wrong, but it has been there for some time ( judging from the mark left by the string ) Has some age overall and could easily see this as mid 20th C (2nd world war era ? )

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Dance baton? Perhaps a fly whisk with the hair missing?
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Old 7th September 2009, 08:32 PM   #3
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Looks like it was made for a spear point to me. The Shona in Rhodesia (Zimbabwe) produced items with a rifle/gun butt shape, and this has that appearance. The wirework is typical for the area.

Maybe an early made for resale item, missing the metal spearhead.

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Looks like it was made for a spear point to me. The Shona in Rhodesia (Zimbabwe) produced items with a rifle/gun butt shape, and this has that appearance. The wirework is typical for the area.

Maybe an early made for resale item, missing the metal spearhead.

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Hi Colin ,
thank you for the reply. Have you any pictures of Shona examples ? I assume that these rifle stock shaped spears are more symbolic than functional ?
Even without the spearhead, this has great balance as a club and has more 'handling marks' at the thinner end. There is no doubt that this would be a very effective 'bludgeoning' tool.

I am also surprised that there are very few examples of African 'gun stock' or similarly shaped clubs. Especially when 'edged' clubs are so common in Polynesia and the America's.

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Old 8th September 2009, 10:59 AM   #5
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Hi David

Here is an image from an old sale catalogue I have to hand...you can see both a knobkerrie and spear that incorporate the gunstock shape.

I've seen examples of knives from Zimbabwe in the form of an AK47. Wooden copies of European firearms also occurred in Ethiopia and West Africa, if my memory serves me well...

Isn't there an axe from South East Africa, in the British Museum that has the handle in the form of a rifle ?

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Hi Colin,
thank you so much for the image you have posted. Interesting examples

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