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Old 6th January 2020, 09:02 PM   #1
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Thanks. Can you refine it any? I'm guessing prior to 1900.
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Old 7th January 2020, 09:29 AM   #2
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Yes, a classical Ottoman Kard and 19th Century. The handle is likely jade and the blade is wootz. The silver scabbard also has all elements of classical Ottoman design, the repose style, 'rings' near the opening and the dragon/fish finial. A nice Kard.
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Old 7th January 2020, 10:51 AM   #3
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As it was said before, in my oppinion too, it is 19th century Ottoman, most likely Turkish Kard.

Better photos should help to identify if it is wootz.
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Old 9th January 2020, 12:02 AM   #4
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Vendor is getting a professional appraisal. If it's outside my price range, I've told them I'll let people know, so you can descend upon them.
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Old 9th January 2020, 09:16 PM   #5
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Excellent Ottoman kard.Congratulations
In regard to the silver scabbard, I have some doubts that it is from another set.If the knife comes in without difficulty and stands tight then everything is ok.
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Old 9th January 2020, 10:57 PM   #6
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Excellent Ottoman kard.Congratulations
In regard to the silver scabbard, I have some doubts that it is from another set.If the knife comes in without difficulty and stands tight then everything is ok.
I agree but even better show us a photo of the knife in the scabbard
According to some members it will be Greek but i think it's a Turkish bishaq...
A kard is Persian....
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Old 10th January 2020, 01:02 PM   #7
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Excellent Ottoman kard.Congratulations
In regard to the silver scabbard, I have some doubts that it is from another set.If the knife comes in without difficulty and stands tight then everything is ok.
I agree with OsobistGB
Greek scabbard (Crete). Card with a strong Persian influence.

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Ножны греческие (Крит). Кард с сильным персидским влиянием.
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Old 10th January 2020, 03:38 PM   #8
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Excellent Ottoman kard.Congratulations
In regard to the silver scabbard, I have some doubts that it is from another set.If the knife comes in without difficulty and stands tight then everything is ok.
It fits perfectly.
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Old 15th January 2020, 03:09 AM   #9
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Better pics of the metal tomorrow.

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Old 15th January 2020, 10:34 AM   #10
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It fits perfectly.
I see your point. However, it does not prove its originality. Scabbards were the first thing to go due to the fragility of their wooden core, and were replaced at intervals during working life of any bladed weapon. Shaping a new scabbard for the blade did not differ from making an original one. Silver cladding might have been original or new because thin silver was also damaged as part of its exposure to the rigors of daily life. As a matter of fact, a perfectly intact scabbard of an obviously old bladed weapon ( like yours) suggests replacement, IMHO, or careful storage ( museum-like conditions) from the moment of its birth.
You got yourself a very good and fully genuine Kard, it is unquestionably authentic, but full originality of its composing parts cannot be proven. It is not a defect but just an inevitable consequence of its age and active usage.
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Old 15th January 2020, 01:16 PM   #11
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Sorry: double posting

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