Ethnographic Arms & Armour
 

Go Back   Ethnographic Arms & Armour > Discussion Forums > Keris Warung Kopi
FAQ Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 28th July 2018, 04:18 PM   #1
Athanase
Member
 
Athanase's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Paris (France)
Posts: 403
Default Balinese Keris with an original pamor.

Hello,

I would like more information about this Keris.
The blade shows an interesting pamor, unfortunately she lost her ganja.
The surface of the blade is not as polished as that of the other Balinese keris I own.
The sheath seems to have been modified but adapts perfectly to the blade. (Maybe it was changed after losing ganja or then recovered from another keris)
The clothing of this Keris seems to date from the twentieth century ( early or late? ), but it is well done.
The horn handle (cow) is covered with fine silver plate to highlight the character's clothes and jewelry.
Attached Images
    
Athanase is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28th July 2018, 04:54 PM   #2
David
Keris forum moderator
 
David's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Nova Scotia
Posts: 7,024
Default

I don't believe that this sheath was adapted for this keris because it lost its gonjo. The original opening appears to have been much larger than than. I am also not sure this isn't a complete keris with gonjo iras. If the shape of the gonjo is the same as the current open suggest i thing it is far more likely the blade is iras (all one piece). Valued old sheath are often adapted to other blades like this and this sheath has some unique pelet wood markings that were probably seen as worth saving. I would think this sheath is at least pre WWII.
Interesting hilt as well. I love the expression on this guy's face.
Unusual pamor for Bali. Lombok is another possibility. The blade also looks like it may have been shortened/reshaped at some point. The pamor seems to run off the tip.
David is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28th July 2018, 05:07 PM   #3
Athanase
Member
 
Athanase's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Paris (France)
Posts: 403
Default

Ok thank you.
Yes, the blade was most likely reshaped.
Athanase is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28th July 2018, 05:16 PM   #4
Jean
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,740
Default

Pamor Teja Kinurung/ Adeg Tiga and Kul Buntet. Blade and scabbard not originally matching, Javanese blade?
Regards
Jean is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28th July 2018, 09:07 PM   #5
Marcokeris
Member
 
Marcokeris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Italy
Posts: 928
Default

I would like to have one like this
Marcokeris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28th July 2018, 10:55 PM   #6
David
Keris forum moderator
 
David's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Nova Scotia
Posts: 7,024
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jean
Pamor Teja Kinurung/ Adeg Tiga and Kul Buntet. Blade and scabbard not originally matching, Javanese blade?
Regards
I could be wrong, but i don't think this looks quite like a Javanese blade. If i had to guess i would say Lombok.
Athanase noted that the blade was not original to this sheath, but it does appear that the refitting was indeed done specifically for this blade so i suspect it had a life in either Bali or Lombok.
David is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29th July 2018, 07:39 AM   #7
Paul B.
Member
 
Paul B.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 205
Default

The handle reminds me of a RARE KUMARA.
See this link:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ht=kumara+rare
A pity that the silver selut 'cabochons' are all bumped.
Paul B. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29th July 2018, 09:35 PM   #8
Jean
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,740
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by David
I could be wrong, but i don't think this looks quite like a Javanese blade. If i had to guess i would say Lombok.
Athanase noted that the blade was not original to this sheath, but it does appear that the refitting was indeed done specifically for this blade so i suspect it had a life in either Bali or Lombok.
I agree that the shape of the blade is quite massive for a Javanese blade but why Lombok?
The back side of the ganja significantly sinks into the scabbard slot while the front side is flush, poor mranggi work. BTW I am not sure that the ganja is missing?
Regards
Jean is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:15 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Posts are regarded as being copyrighted by their authors and the act of posting material is deemed to be a granting of an irrevocable nonexclusive license for display here.