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Old 2nd October 2019, 09:04 AM   #1
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Default Mace from Bukhara.

Recently, thanks to the help of one of my good friends from this forum, I bought this Bukhara mace for my collection.
Does anyone have similar items in their collections?
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Old 2nd October 2019, 12:30 PM   #2
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Elgood, Robert, ed., Islamic Arms and Armour, Scolar Press 1979. There is an article on the subject. Flindt, Torben W.: Some Nineteenth-Century Arms from Bukhara.
The David Collection. Islamic Arms and Armour from Private Danish Collections. Pp. 128-129.
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Old 2nd October 2019, 12:54 PM   #3
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Oh yeah. Thank you. I have this book and this article. You correctly noted that my mace is from this private collection and was published in the article about which you wrote. I know it
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I dont know if the mace you have is the same as the one mentioned/shown in Torben W. Flindt's article. Maybe it is - you will have to be the judge.
I have had the mace in my hands, and also saw it when it was exhibited at The David Collection - but it is many years ago.
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Old 2nd October 2019, 01:41 PM   #5
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I think it's enough to compare the photo.
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Question: have you seen any engraving or ancient document showing Bukharan men with this mace? I think many of these maces so-called bukhara maces are not from Bukhara.
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Old 4th October 2019, 03:41 PM   #7
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Mahratt, maybe this will be of interest to you.
https://archive.org/details/emirbokh...fgoog/page/n13
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Mahratt, maybe this will be of interest to you.
https://archive.org/details/emirbokh...fgoog/page/n13

Jens, thank you very much! I read this book. But I am very pleased that you want to help me! Thank you again! Unfortunately, I didn't find any mention about this mace in this book... But maybe I didn't read the book carefully?
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Old 4th October 2019, 08:50 PM   #9
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Jens, thank you very much! I read this book. But I am very pleased that you want to help me! Thank you again! Unfortunately, I didn't find any mention about this mace in this book... But maybe I didn't read the book carefully?
Sometimes you are so polite and so kind that I suspect that you are a bit ironic... But I'm a bad man you are probably just a gentleman...
I know this book too! And of course these maces are Central Asian but like you i would like to know more...
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Old 4th October 2019, 08:59 PM   #10
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Sometimes you are so polite and so kind that I suspect that you are a bit ironic... But I'm a bad man you are probably just a gentleman...
I know this book too! And of course these maces are Central Asian but like you i would like to know more...
Hi Kubur
Previously, I was quite “sharp” and caustic in communication But after the comments of the moderators forum I decided that it was much easier to be as polite as possible
I am sincerely grateful to Jens. He wanted to help me. He could not know that I had already read this book.

If I learn something new about these maces, I will definitely inform you of new information.
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