Another Jungayyan Barong

CharlesS · 17th December 2013, 03:49 PM

Here is a another Moro jungayyan barong. I am not sure which tribe, but after conversations with Battara and describing the pommel to him, I suggest Tausug. It seems the pommel's upper and lower portion are at a slightly more elongated and extreme "1 o'clock" and "7 o'clock" positions.

Once the "Moro guys" see it they may have a better or another idea.

The blade is rather standard(in terms of pattern welding) except that it has an upper edge for 2/3s of its length.

The quite simple scabbard is original, but was broken in several spots and has seen some restoration.

Sajen · 17th December 2013, 06:41 PM

Very very nice!

kronckew · 17th December 2013, 06:43 PM

Wow!

Royston · 17th December 2013, 07:21 PM

Charles

I think I could live with the "Standard" blade just for the sake of the hilt and pommel.

David R · 17th December 2013, 10:42 PM

The more I see of these the more I want one for my own collection. Really really nice!

Spunjer · 17th December 2013, 10:57 PM

yowza!!! heck of a piece you got there, Charles! that's one cool looking puppy you got, lol. it's amazing how those fragile ivory carvings are perfectly intact a hundred or so years later. the double edge blade is a plus as well! an excellent Sulu piece! congrats on your latest catch!!!
this barung reminds me of the God of War piece. the only thing missing are the symbols on the blade...

CharlesS · 17th December 2013, 11:59 PM

Spunjer: would you consider this a Tausug piece, and if so what would you consider the identifying characteristics???

Thanks for your input, as always!

jwkiernan · 18th December 2013, 05:32 AM

Absolutely stunning Charles! One day I'll find one of these beauties! Congrats!

All my best,

John

Maurice · 18th December 2013, 10:43 AM

Congrats Charles,

Thanks for sharing this beauty.
Indeed great to see that the ivory is still intact over all those years.

Regards,
Maurice

Spunjer · 18th December 2013, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharlesS

Spunjer: would you consider this a Tausug piece, and if so what would you consider the identifying characteristics???

Thanks for your input, as always!

the hilt design is Tausug, Charles. notice how the back plume extends out from the get-go, whereas Sama style normally curls at first. what i'm curious about, and i just now notice it, is the okir on the scabbard. is it alright if you can blow that up and post the pic?

CharlesS · 18th December 2013, 02:00 PM

Spunjer, hopefully this will help. The okir motifs to the left outer portion of the scabbard look pretty typical. The center panel seems to be decorated with carved floral motifs(some almost appearing to be fleur-de-lis!!!) in and around a center "V".

Battara · 18th December 2013, 07:31 PM

I must admit the more I have looked at the angle of this pommel, the more I am thinking toward the Sama people. With the scabbard top done in this fashion and the ukkil used, I now am almost sure it is from the Sama. I say almost because usually I see pieces attributed to the Sama with slightly different ukkil where the tail starts.

Another possibility, Ron could this also be from Bun-Bun village?

kino · 19th December 2013, 02:28 PM

Damn!!! What a handsome Barung.
You must have been good to get an early Christmas present like that.
Thanks for sharing.

17th December 2013, 03:49 PM	#1
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,855	Another Jungayyan Barong Here is a another Moro jungayyan barong. I am not sure which tribe, but after conversations with Battara and describing the pommel to him, I suggest Tausug. It seems the pommel's upper and lower portion are at a slightly more elongated and extreme "1 o'clock" and "7 o'clock" positions. Once the "Moro guys" see it they may have a better or another idea. The blade is rather standard(in terms of pattern welding) except that it has an upper edge for 2/3s of its length. The quite simple scabbard is original, but was broken in several spots and has seen some restoration. Attached Images

18th December 2013, 02:00 PM	#11
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,855	Spunjer, hopefully this will help. The okir motifs to the left outer portion of the scabbard look pretty typical. The center panel seems to be decorated with carved floral motifs(some almost appearing to be fleur-de-lis!!!) in and around a center "V". Attached Images Last edited by CharlesS; 18th December 2013 at 02:18 PM.

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17th December 2013, 06:41 PM	#2
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,466	Very very nice!

17th December 2013, 06:43 PM	#3
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,148	Wow!

17th December 2013, 07:21 PM	#4
Royston Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Poole England Posts: 441	Charles I think I could live with the "Standard" blade just for the sake of the hilt and pommel.

17th December 2013, 10:42 PM	#5
David R Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,051	The more I see of these the more I want one for my own collection. Really really nice!

17th December 2013, 10:57 PM	#6
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	yowza!!! heck of a piece you got there, Charles! that's one cool looking puppy you got, lol. it's amazing how those fragile ivory carvings are perfectly intact a hundred or so years later. the double edge blade is a plus as well! an excellent Sulu piece! congrats on your latest catch!!! this barung reminds me of the God of War piece. the only thing missing are the symbols on the blade...

17th December 2013, 11:59 PM	#7
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,855	Spunjer: would you consider this a Tausug piece, and if so what would you consider the identifying characteristics??? Thanks for your input, as always!

18th December 2013, 05:32 AM	#8
jwkiernan Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37	Absolutely stunning Charles! One day I'll find one of these beauties! Congrats! All my best, John

18th December 2013, 10:43 AM	#9
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,324	Congrats Charles, Thanks for sharing this beauty. Indeed great to see that the ivory is still intact over all those years. Regards, Maurice

18th December 2013, 07:31 PM	#12
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,139	I must admit the more I have looked at the angle of this pommel, the more I am thinking toward the Sama people. With the scabbard top done in this fashion and the ukkil used, I now am almost sure it is from the Sama. I say almost because usually I see pieces attributed to the Sama with slightly different ukkil where the tail starts. Another possibility, Ron could this also be from Bun-Bun village?

19th December 2013, 02:28 PM	#13
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 971	Damn!!! What a handsome Barung. You must have been good to get an early Christmas present like that. Thanks for sharing.