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Old 2nd April 2015, 04:46 PM   #1
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Default North African dagger ?

I have always thought this was a N African dagger , but wondered if any members could tell me a bit more about it such as its origin and name if it has a specific one.
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Old 2nd April 2015, 05:37 PM   #2
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An interesting one. Pommel construction and style of a takouba, blade style of a jambiya. The general style makes me think of work from the Niger region. Afraid I can't say much more. Very much looks like a jambiya influenced design though.

I've seen a number with this general type of brass hilt with a variety of blade styles.
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An interesting one. Pommel construction and style of a takouba, blade style of a jambiya. The general style makes me think of work from the Niger region. Afraid I can't say much more. Very much looks like a jambiya influenced design though.

I've seen a number with this general type of brass hilt with a variety of blade styles.


Yes thank you Iain, I do agree , it does have a pommel much like a takouba , and indeed overall very like a jambiya in general form.
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Old 2nd April 2015, 06:14 PM   #4
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My guess would be the Somalia area, though the blade form is a bit different...
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I think this belongs to the group of dagers from Somalia or maybe better eastern Ethiopia (Ogaden).

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=18201

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My guess would be the Somalia area, though the blade form is a bit different...


Even with that heavy brass grip Colin ?
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I think this belongs to the group of dagers from Somalia or maybe better eastern Ethiopia (Ogaden).

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=18201

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Yes I can see the similarities, but the grip is so distinctive and unlike Somalia or Ethiopia to me .
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Old 2nd April 2015, 11:05 PM   #8
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Well done Martin! You are absolutely right Somalia or Erythrea.
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I'd forgotten about those! Good ID Colin and Martin I think you are spot on.
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I'd forgotten about those! Good ID Colin and Martin I think you are spot on.



You chaps certainly know a lot more about this than I do , but do any of you have any pictures illustrating a similar hilt to that of my dagger ... it just looks so different to all those you cite. I agree the scabbard , the bolster and even the blade shape is very much allied to those illustrated , but the hilt seems so distinctive I would have thought it would indicate something .
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Old 5th April 2015, 03:21 AM   #11
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Default Arm Dagger - Sudan/Mahdi War?

The loop suggests that this is an "arm dagger". Eastern Africa Sudan etc).
See the painting (via google) "The flight of the Madhi after the Battle of Omdurman).
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