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Old 22nd March 2020, 04:41 PM   #1
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Default Spear, Sumatra or Java?

Pamor similar to Uler lulut(?), a few millimetres of the tip of the blade missing, exceptionally delicate gold Naga heads on each side of the base of the blade, with topong makhota (crown with ear pieces) and inlaid eyes, gold decoration on the metuk, including tumpal and diamond patterns, and four ovals with a setting for a stone in the centre of each (stones missing).
Dark brown/black wood shaft, a plain spiral carved the whole length.

184 cm, blade 24.5 cm, tang 17 cm, sleeve 15 cm.

Is this Sumatran (I have seen similar pamor on Sumatran keris blades) or Javanese, or...?
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Old 22nd March 2020, 07:53 PM   #2
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Hello Tim,

Very nice spear, indeed!

The methuk seems separate? I'd lean towards the Jawa/Bali nexus.

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Old 23rd March 2020, 04:28 AM   #3
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Of the 3, this one is my favorite!

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Old 23rd March 2020, 10:11 AM   #4
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Hello Tim,

Very nice spears you have acquired!
Like Kai I would go for Java or Bali for this one.

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Old 23rd March 2020, 11:30 AM   #5
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No, not Bali, Jawa, I think probably Surakarta but I want check a reference.
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Old 23rd March 2020, 10:08 PM   #6
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Tim, are you able to provide photos of both ends of the shaft so that we can see the form and detail of the ferrule and butt, and a full length photo of the tombak?
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