Period Photos of People with Ethnographic Arms

Rick · 19th March 2023, 12:51 AM

Middle picture:
Looks like an old Iver Johnson top break revolver w/pearl grips on his belt.
Beautiful kit.

The three in the picture below him all look like they are carrying swords,.

gp · 19th March 2023, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

Middle picture:

The three in the picture below him all look like they are carrying swords,.

it actually is a caronero; a long knife used by the gauchos.
But it looks that indeed other weapons like swords might have been borrowed...

gp · 19th March 2023, 09:05 PM

article called "PROMENADE A TRAVERS LA PAMPA GAUCHO" a walk through the gaucho's pampa from 1881

and how it looked like

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JDDX_z7tT10

and a little info on these long ones:

http://esgrimacriolla.blogspot.com/2...-caronero.html

Ian · 21st March 2023, 09:51 AM

gp,

I'm not sure those blades are very true to reality. They look more like folding knives, such as navaja, than facón or cuchillo. This could just as well be a Mediterranean scene, despite the legend to the drawing. Popular travelogues from the nineteenth century generally took a lot of license with what they presented, and often times the stories were written by people who had not ventured very far from Europe.

fernando · 21st March 2023, 03:00 PM

Amen.

David R · 22nd March 2023, 12:29 AM

I am also very sceptical of the "ice-pick" grip of the blades, which is rare in real life and specialised for a power strike or finishing move. As I understand it Gaucho fought for prestige and to settle disputes usually with a poncho or blanket wrapped round the left arm as a protection.

Turkoman.khan · 17th April 2023, 08:01 PM

DUPRÉ, Louis (1789-1837). Voyage à Athènes et à Constantinople, ou Collection de portraits, de vues et de costumes grecs et ottomans, peints sur les lieux. Paris: Dondey-Dupré, 1825

Ralioundji. Military sailor attached to the Ottoman Admiralty

19th March 2023, 12:51 AM	#1
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,268	Middle picture: Looks like an old Iver Johnson top break revolver w/pearl grips on his belt. Beautiful kit. The three in the picture below him all look like they are carrying swords,. Last edited by Rick; 19th March 2023 at 01:05 AM.

19th March 2023, 09:05 PM	#3
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 671	article called "PROMENADE A TRAVERS LA PAMPA GAUCHO" a walk through the gaucho's pampa from 1881 and how it looked like https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JDDX_z7tT10 and a little info on these long ones: http://esgrimacriolla.blogspot.com/2...-caronero.html Attached Images Last edited by gp; 19th March 2023 at 09:41 PM.

17th April 2023, 08:01 PM	#7
Turkoman.khan Member Join Date: Apr 2023 Posts: 95	DUPRÉ, Louis (1789-1837). Voyage à Athènes et à Constantinople, ou Collection de portraits, de vues et de costumes grecs et ottomans, peints sur les lieux. Paris: Dondey-Dupré, 1825 Ralioundji. Military sailor attached to the Ottoman Admiralty Attached Images

21st March 2023, 09:51 AM	#4
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,065	gp, I'm not sure those blades are very true to reality. They look more like folding knives, such as navaja, than facón or cuchillo. This could just as well be a Mediterranean scene, despite the legend to the drawing. Popular travelogues from the nineteenth century generally took a lot of license with what they presented, and often times the stories were written by people who had not ventured very far from Europe.

21st March 2023, 03:00 PM	#5
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,665	Amen.

22nd March 2023, 12:29 AM	#6
David R Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,058	I am also very sceptical of the "ice-pick" grip of the blades, which is rare in real life and specialised for a power strike or finishing move. As I understand it Gaucho fought for prestige and to settle disputes usually with a poncho or blanket wrapped round the left arm as a protection.