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Old 24th November 2020, 08:44 PM   #1
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Question Some kind of Eastern weapon

Dear colleagues,
Just wondering if this "weapon" has any real prototype or it's a fantasy thing?
Thanks in advance for the answers!
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Old 24th November 2020, 09:08 PM   #2
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For me it's fantasy. I think it's not forged but cast.
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Old 24th November 2020, 10:21 PM   #3
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Nope!

Neither Eastern, nor Western and not even weapon, but purely fantasy "thing."

These "things" (because I cannot in good faith call it a weapon) are completely unpractical as even a kitchen knife, and possibly even a fork is more effective.
Not to mention John Wick's pencil...

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Old 24th November 2020, 11:14 PM   #4
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thank you, gents! well, now I have to make my fellow upset))
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Old 24th November 2020, 11:32 PM   #5
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Looks like skulators pizza cutter

ie. fantasy thing imho.
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Old 25th November 2020, 08:53 AM   #6
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It looks like something inspired by a haladie. But, that would have 3 dagger blades instead of the silly pizza slicer.

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Old 25th November 2020, 10:06 AM   #7
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Nope!

Not to mention John Wick's pencil...



Something similar
with this excellent actor, Wesley Snipes...
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Old 25th November 2020, 10:32 AM   #8
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Something similar
with this excellent actor, Wesley Snipes...


These are very different as they don-t have the useless front/push/pizza-cutting edge.

Moreover, the under-grip edge might be extremely effective (like a korambi/lavi ayam knife)...

while the upper edge might also be effective... at injuring the wielder.
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Old 25th November 2020, 05:03 PM   #9
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Guys,

This is another fantasy item bearing little, if any, resemblance to an ethnographic weapon. As noted in another recent thread, which I closed for off topic comments, this Forum is not about fantasy items. I realize these are difficult times and folks want to have a bit of fun. However, let's get back to the title of this Forum--ethnographic arms and armour. There are other sites that address the fantasy stuff.

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Old 25th November 2020, 06:52 PM   #10
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Ian,
Sorry for this thread. I was not sure that it's a fantasy "weapon". I thought it might be a replica (of some real Eastern/Asian weapon).
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Old 25th November 2020, 09:15 PM   #11
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Ian,
Sorry for this thread. I was not sure that it's a fantasy "weapon". I thought it might be a replica (of some real Eastern/Asian weapon).



While this is most obviously not an actual weapon, I understood your original question which was reasonably placed. In studying arms there are often examples of theatrical, souvenir, ceremonial etc. weapons which are often based on actual weapons and can sometimes be mistaken for those 'prototypes' which you mention in your query.

The haladie suggestion was probably the most viable, and while the observations on some of the 'Hollywood' weaponry is of course somewhat laughable, I have on occasion found the 'models' or 'ideas' used to fashion them interesting.

I recall the blue 'gunstock war club' used in the movie "Last of the Mohicans", which really piqued my interest. I reached various individuals involved in production and finally reached the artisan who made the weapon (five in total) used. I found that these war clubs with knife blades were not really used by the Woodland tribes, but a Plains Indian weapon in actuality. The late Norm Flayderman told me these were not made from repurposed gun stocks as often believed, but the shape recalled them. The blue color was simply for effect.

I agree it is outside the regular theme here to discuss 'fantasy' type items, but wanted to add some perspective.
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Old 26th November 2020, 03:00 AM   #12
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Thanks Jim. Your comments are well taken. And Evegeny, there is absolutely nothing wrong with asking here as to whether this is a weapon or a fantasy item. Very reasonable use of the Forum. My concern is when the discussion flies off on tangents about fantasy weapons in general.
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