A tulwar from Kishanghar

Jens Nordlunde · 30th April 2007, 04:53 PM

Here is a tulwar from the Kishanghar armoury in Rajasthan. It is special be course of the ‘pearls’ along the edges of the hilt, and be course of the deep and very distinct armoury mark and the serrated back of the blade. Usually they are not made very deep, and not very destinct either.

ariel · 30th April 2007, 06:56 PM

I like it: very restraint style, noble and elegant.

S.Al-Anizi · 30th April 2007, 09:26 PM

A very *nice* sword, thanks for sharing

CharlesS · 30th April 2007, 11:29 PM

Beautiful for its elegance, yet business-like, nature.

Lovely find!!

ALEX · 2nd May 2007, 03:49 PM

Nice indeed. Is it damascus blade, or have you tried to test-etch it?

Also, I just finished restoring two tulwars. Both have pattern-weld blades. I'll post the pictures soon.

Jens Nordlunde · 2nd May 2007, 04:21 PM

No, I have not tried to etch it yet, but I will try it, when I feel I have the time – being on pension can be rather time consuming

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It will be nice to see your tulwars

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Here is what most Kishangarh armoury marks look like. I really wonder why they made the marks so sloppy. It would have been easier/faster to remove the wax where the letters/numbers were to be and start etching, but they removed the wax around the letters/numbers, and in a rather careless way at that, unless the army just had come home with 25.000 ‘new’ swords and daggers to be marked, before they entered the armoury. Even a stamp would have been a lot faster and easier – although the number would fail – so why etching?

Jens Nordlunde · 2nd May 2007, 05:07 PM

Sorry - here is the mark.

ward · 2nd May 2007, 09:41 PM

why carve it of wax use a wax pencil or crayon write out what you want. mix the acid with inate product to make a slurry or put it straight on and use the wax pencil to put a quick dam around it. quick and dirty. I suspect a slurry would be the easiest. there is a product on the market called peel away main ingediant as I remember is methal chloride. It comes in a putty and would do the job. Sure there was something similar in the areas

ALEX · 8th May 2007, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Jens Nordlunde

No, I have not tried to etch it yet, but I will try it, when I feel I have the time – being on pension can be rather time consuming

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It will be nice to see your tulwars

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Here are the pictures. The top one is very thick with heavy, chiseled on both sides, blade. Note the eyelashes mark in the carved part of the blade.
The second is thin, light and very well balanced. Both exhibit pattern weld Damascus (after restoration. The blade of the second tulwar was in very bad condition, and seems quite old). I also notice a slightly razed yelmen on both blades.
I'd appreciate any observations/comments on these tulwars.

Jens Nordlunde · 9th May 2007, 12:47 PM

Alex

Nice pair of tulwars you have, with nice Indian blades as well.

Have you had the text on the blade translated? What does the top of the disc look like? Where are the eye lashes?

30th April 2007, 04:53 PM	#1
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,713	A tulwar from Kishanghar Here is a tulwar from the Kishanghar armoury in Rajasthan. It is special be course of the ‘pearls’ along the edges of the hilt, and be course of the deep and very distinct armoury mark and the serrated back of the blade. Usually they are not made very deep, and not very destinct either. Attached Images Last edited by Jens Nordlunde; 30th April 2007 at 09:30 PM.

2nd May 2007, 04:21 PM	#6
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,713	No, I have not tried to etch it yet, but I will try it, when I feel I have the time – being on pension can be rather time consuming. It will be nice to see your tulwars. Here is what most Kishangarh armoury marks look like. I really wonder why they made the marks so sloppy. It would have been easier/faster to remove the wax where the letters/numbers were to be and start etching, but they removed the wax around the letters/numbers, and in a rather careless way at that, unless the army just had come home with 25.000 ‘new’ swords and daggers to be marked, before they entered the armoury. Even a stamp would have been a lot faster and easier – although the number would fail – so why etching? Last edited by Jens Nordlunde; 2nd May 2007 at 04:47 PM.

2nd May 2007, 05:07 PM	#7
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,713	Sorry - here is the mark. Attached Images

30th April 2007, 06:56 PM	#2
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	I like it: very restraint style, noble and elegant.

30th April 2007, 09:26 PM	#3
S.Al-Anizi Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Arabia Posts: 278	A very nice sword, thanks for sharing

30th April 2007, 11:29 PM	#4
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,855	Beautiful for its elegance, yet business-like, nature. Lovely find!!

2nd May 2007, 03:49 PM	#5
ALEX Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 936	Nice indeed. Is it damascus blade, or have you tried to test-etch it? Also, I just finished restoring two tulwars. Both have pattern-weld blades. I'll post the pictures soon.

2nd May 2007, 09:41 PM	#8
ward Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 637	why carve it of wax use a wax pencil or crayon write out what you want. mix the acid with inate product to make a slurry or put it straight on and use the wax pencil to put a quick dam around it. quick and dirty. I suspect a slurry would be the easiest. there is a product on the market called peel away main ingediant as I remember is methal chloride. It comes in a putty and would do the job. Sure there was something similar in the areas

9th May 2007, 12:47 PM	#10
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,713	Alex Nice pair of tulwars you have, with nice Indian blades as well. Have you had the text on the blade translated? What does the top of the disc look like? Where are the eye lashes?