Unusual Balkan? Dagger - Page 2

eftihis · 26th July 2010, 05:23 PM

Dear kronckew,
Thanks for accomodating our sensitivities!
I agree with all that you say, and indeed we share common designs because of common Turkish occupation.
And we fought in our war of revolution with Turkish weapons, just as Afgans fought Russians with AK-47.
The whole isssue comes from the fact that we Greeks feel that we have a lot of differences with our Balkan neighbors, and so we just dont like to be included in one group together with them, without first clarifying our differences!!!

kronckew · 27th July 2010, 08:22 AM

Greeks have always been prickly and get a tad disgruntled when other groups have tried to knock you down. you are still here. they aren't.

Ὦ ξεῖν', ἀγγέλλειν Λακεδαιμονίοις ὅτι τῇδε
κείμεθα, τοῖς κείνων ῥήμασι πειθόμενοι.

"Dic, hospes Spartae nos te hic vidisse iacentes,
Dum sanctis patriae legibus obsequimur."

Go tell the Spartans, thou who passeth by,
That here, obedient to their laws, we lie

i have borrowed that line to use in my signature on other fora, along with Μολὼν λαβέ

.

greece is the fountainhead of western civilization and culture.

Atlantia · 7th August 2010, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by eftihis

Hallo friends,
As you can see from the photos bellow, this is a Greek knife. (not from Crete, but from mainland Greece).
These are fairly common knifes made untill recently, yet this kind of handle is atypical, (maybe a makers experiment or a creative inovation inspired from balkan "kamas".)
The first knife in the group photo has exactry the same design on blade as the one we are discussing. (photo n5)
The metal studs decoration exists in bosnian knifes, but is a simple kind of decoration that was obviously used in other places, like is happening with other simple kind of designs, like circles with dots etc...
The 6th photo has a stamped manufacturers name who is "Pourikas Larissa".
"Pourikas" is the makers name and "Larissa" the main city of the Thessalia area in the middle part of Greece. And searching the makers name in this city's telephone directory, it came out as "Pourikas E. cutting tools" ... Propably the maker's son or grandson.
In the 7th photo, the "Made in Greece" inscription is self explanatory...
Finally, the 8th photo has an example with the the date 1934 on it.
Judging from the scabbard, i would say that your knife was made after the war, arround 1950s-1960s.
Regards to all!

Hello again Eftihis,

I've been considering your collection, and a question occurred to me.
What is the length range of the ones you have pictured? The proportions seem a little different from mine and I'm curious.
Thanks
Gene

27th July 2010, 08:22 AM	#32
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,150	Greeks have always been prickly and get a tad disgruntled when other groups have tried to knock you down. you are still here. they aren't. Ὦ ξεῖν', ἀγγέλλειν Λακεδαιμονίοις ὅτι τῇδε κείμεθα, τοῖς κείνων ῥήμασι πειθόμενοι. "Dic, hospes Spartae nos te hic vidisse iacentes, Dum sanctis patriae legibus obsequimur." Go tell the Spartans, thou who passeth by, That here, obedient to their laws, we lie i have borrowed that line to use in my signature on other fora, along with Μολὼν λαβέ . greece is the fountainhead of western civilization and culture. Last edited by kronckew; 27th July 2010 at 08:35 AM.

26th July 2010, 05:23 PM	#31
eftihis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chania Crete Greece Posts: 500	Dear kronckew, Thanks for accomodating our sensitivities! I agree with all that you say, and indeed we share common designs because of common Turkish occupation. And we fought in our war of revolution with Turkish weapons, just as Afgans fought Russians with AK-47. The whole isssue comes from the fact that we Greeks feel that we have a lot of differences with our Balkan neighbors, and so we just dont like to be included in one group together with them, without first clarifying our differences!!!