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Old 26th January 2023, 10:13 AM   #31
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I agree with Gavins comment. I own a couple of large sperm whale teeth. They are hollow. I cannot see how the hulu can be whale tooth. The scabbard is elephant t me. It is not whale tooth and not bone. The hulu is also likely elephant. Dugong may be a possibility too.
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Old 26th January 2023, 12:21 PM   #32
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Hello Sid,

All teeth that keep growing are hollow and have such a conical pulp cavity.

This hilt is way too large for dugong.

Given the cementum layer visible on both sides of the hilt (back and base - check first pics), I'd still vote for spermwhale - even if it would need to come from a really huge male...

If they had a good chunk for the crosspiece, I just can't fathom why they added additional material on both sides... (On one side only would be less work and look better IMHO.)

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Old 26th January 2023, 12:34 PM   #33
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Sperm whale teeth have huge and deep hollows. I have a very large antique tooth from whaling times. There is no way there is enough material to carve a hulu from it. I think unless there is more to support sperm whale tooth this is only speculation.
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Old 26th January 2023, 12:38 PM   #34
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Old 26th January 2023, 05:04 PM   #35
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Hello Sid,

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Sperm whale teeth have huge and deep hollows. I have a very large antique tooth from whaling times. There is no way there is enough material to carve a hulu from it.
Your example is not a representative example - possibly from more towards the base of the jaw? I suppose it got scrapped because there was not enough material for real use.

Here are examples of more typical working teeth including a huge one from Moby Dick...

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Old 26th January 2023, 05:14 PM   #36
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A marine ivory kakatua pommel that shows the core of the sperm whale tooth carved.
A better picture of the pommel.
Sorry for the crappy picture from below.
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Old 28th January 2023, 08:06 AM   #37
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Seems hippo tooth also carries the some core features.
A good carver certainly brings out the best of these contrasting colours.
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